I was referring to the Run & Gun, which I tested side-by-side with FGMM. http://www.southwestammunition.com/product_p/308175smk-rng.htm $17.49 per box which if my math is good, comes up to $1.01 per box less expensive. This is not even at the regularly offered promotional discounts, that's just standard cost. Yes, Run & Gun is loaded out of once-fired Lake City brass. I'm not exactly sure how never-fired brass is making up that dollar-per-box difference.... If you've tried their ammo and don't like it, that's a whole different story and I can respect that. On my part, I've tried their product and it performed beautifully. I like getting a discount on a premium item as much as the next guy, but when I can get the equivalent for less money, practicality compels me to pass it by.