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Matt, are you inhaling or exhaling while you're taking a shot? That first target pic above ^^^, that direct straight up-and-down stringing is a classic example of firing at different points in the respiratory cycle. Sight picture is the same, sight alignment is the same, trigger squeeze is the same in each shot - You can see that by how far left-to-right the shot group is. That up and down stuff is all breathing. <thumbsup>

^^^ That was a good article - I've still got that someplace.

I used their 77gr Match for the AR-15 - it's every bit as good as the Black Hills 77gr SMK and the Prvi 75gr Match. I like the stuff. <thumbsup>

Welcome aboard, Randy! Man, I miss Arizona... :-[

Very cool info - I always stop and hit up the Cabela's in Wheeling, WV when I'm driving between here and Ohio. I'll snoop around there next time through. They're also just about the only retailer that stocks Black Hills Mk 262, but you gotta get lucky to find that stuff on the shelves... :o

I'll grab some pics of a few motorcycle parts I had dipped in a carbon fiber pattern. The prices were great, and I'd bet the guy would do gun parts. I'll try to see if that's a possibility for him, and see what he'd charge for gun stuff. Here's his website, for the time being: http://www.k2concepts.net/ If any of you decide to call him, his name is Jim. 951-675-1303.

Oh, I will - I told her I'm not gonna zero it, and she has to be the one to do that. She shouldn't have too much trouble, but we'll see. Pics are a definite on that one. <thumbsup>

The HSM ammo is definitely good stuff, and it's not overpriced, especially for what you're getting. Muy Bueno. Is it still only sold through Sniper's Hide forum, or has it branched out other places yet? Either way, it's good stuff. <thumbsup>

Drew wins. ;D Unbeknownst to me, kayaking was shifted to tomorrow, and friends are coming over later today. I'm only on here because she's out at the (flower) nursery picking up cute little colorful things to plant in the yard... ::) I stashed it in a new (cheap) gun case because I didn't feel like trying to wrap the thing up, and I snuck it into the kitchen this morning. I didn't say anything about it, but she noticed that I had a gun case upstairs, so she asked if I was going to the range on her birthday - I said, "I don't know - maybe. Depends on whether you want to shoot or not..." She was confused. I told her that wasn't my gun case. She was even more confused, so I just told her to open the gun case up, because it wasn't mine. She started to get it, then... I'm tellin' you, she spent about an hour doing manipulation drills with it - she'd never seen (or operated) a BAD lever before, and she likes that after using it. I think actually having her own AR kinda turned her on, because it was on after that! Good day, good day... ;D EDIT - she DID open the cap on the grip, and saw the ear rings, but she was already fired up before finding those... <dontknow> <thumbsup>

^^^ I'm voting for that, too... <thumbsup>

Drew, it depends on what you're going for. There's only one model that has a 16.25" barrel, and that's a youth model. Grab that one if you're going for something to convert to a "tactical-type .22." There's a target model that comes from the factory that has a Pic rail mounted - look for that if you're going for something to put a modern optic on. Tell the truth, Ruger has really stepped it up in what they offer now, straight from the factory, and there's literally dozens of models to choose from, between what they offer everywhere, and what they offer as "Dealer Specials" - direct factory mods that one specific dealer needs or wants for customers. It's absolutely nuts, man - and it's not just the 10/22s... It's all their firearms.

Me too, man. I'm fired up to hunt this thing. I think I am going to go ahead and get that TRS-1 for it, and this scope here will go back on the bolt gun. I'm pretty sure I'm taking that one, too.

I'm workin' this thing for you, brother! Pimp My Gun hooked me up! ;D I can't wait to see this thing, weight this thing - hell, I can't wait to SHOOT this thing!!! :o 8)

SO far, I like it alot - the slim profile is really cool; it's one narrow tube. That may be it's downfall, though, and the shooting will tell. If it heats up too much, it's gone. I'll replace that sucker with the MI SS-12 in green. ;D Thank ya, man! I hope she likes the thing. Supposed to go kayaking on Saturday for her B-Day - so if you guys see me online Saturday afternoon... she's kayaking by herself, because she hates me, and hated the "present..." <munch> :D

Done! All parts in; everything put together and function checked. http://308forum.com/index.php?topic=280.0

Well, I hope she likes this thing when she opens it up. It's a crapshoot. Spike's lower, AP upper, Armalite 16" midlength gas barrel, Troy Extreme 13" rail, Magpul foliage furniture, Surefire M951 light, Bushnell Trophy red dot in an Aimpoint QRP mount, Kinght's vertical grip, Magpul BAD and ASAP - and a single point sling not in the pics; 6 more mags not in the pics. 7 lbs, 7.8 oz just like this, empty mag in it: No weight with the light and red dot, but this is what she'll open up. I'm sticking a pair of ear rings inside the pistol grip, just in case she's pissed at opening this up... :o

Hey draco, not sure what you're running for barrel twist, but if it's a 1/7 or 1/8, then Midway has the Prvi Partizan 75gr BTHP match ammo on sale for $10.99 per 20 box. That runs until April 30th. It's as accurate as Black Hills 77gr SMK out of my 1/7 gun. Great stuff, man.

I might be interested in one for the 308 - running a polished stocker right now.

Dang - top link to the 55gr stuff - not working 'cause it's sold out now. That was fast, becuase they just listed it about a week ago. draco, thanks for the heads up on the poly coating - I haven't used the stuff in the 5.56, just pistol caliber. Thinking about it, there's not too many ways to heat the pistols up to the exent the AR would heat up, so I can see where the problems would come up. I am snatching up some of the SS109, though. :D

I can't wait to see this thing, man! <munch> ;D

I've been eyeballing that TRS-1 for awhile now, and almost picked it up twice now. For some reason I keep putting it off. I'd be interested in hearing updates on it as time goes by. I've got a Bushnell Trophy red dot on one AR, a Bushnell Trophy 3/9x40 on another, and a Cabela's 3/12x40 on the .308. I have no idea who makes that scope for Cabela's, but it's not too bad at all. Getting ready to pick up a Burris XTS-135 red dot for another AR, so I'll get something up on that one in a couple weeks.

$249 per 1k on Wolf 55gr or 62gr (either one, same price) from Surplus Ammo. That's the non-brass stuff, though. Steel cased, polymer coated, non-corrosive. The stuff isn't bad, and I use it for general range training for the 9mm and the .45. I'll be picking up a case of the 62gr for general AR-15 use in a couple weeks. They also have a good deal on real M-855 62gr green tip, at $370 per 1k. https://surplusammo.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_38&products_id=132 https://surplusammo.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_38&products_id=135

Got most of my stuff for the midlength yesterday. Lower parts kit come in tomorrow, so I'll make it for Saturday. One big mistake in the plan - got many parts from DSG Arms, and I've bought from them before. They sent a 20" rifle gas barrel instead of the 16" mid gas barrel. I called them up and ended up talking to Zack in Sales. Those guys are fantastic. They wanted the 20" barrel back and they'd send the 16". I told them I had to have the gun built by Saturday, and Zack says, "Ah, poop - hold on and I'll be back on the line in a few minutes..." ;D They sent the 16" out to me via 2-day air, and put the return shipping label for the 20" inside that box. I'll get the 16", swap them, then send the 20" back. Not too many places that will still do things like that anymore. I'm very, very impressed with how they handled it. Tomorrow, it'll be finished. Plenty of time for the Saturday presentation.

Info straight from DPMS: Our AR15 receivers are all the same height except the High Rider and Tri-Mount. The LR308 Platform has two heights, the A3 and Lo-Pro Raised Rail. The A3 was changed recently to better accommodate our other components. I guess in reality, with the number sold before the change, there are now 3 heights. To find out if you have a newer model or older run, the easiest way to measure is with a caliper from the bottom surface that mates to the lower to the top of the rail. The new versions measure 2.003 and the old versions are 2.063. Any larger receiver rail to handguard rail height difference would be due to the lack of an industry standard in the large frame AR style rifles. Everybody is still pretty much making their own thing and some measurements just don't line up between manufacturers.

I have to completely thank YOU for that idea, too - I never would have wrapped them both up as "one" before I talked to you... ;D I sure as hell hope it works... <munch>