MaDuce Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Here's a very good movie to watch. It's a true story, less then an hour long and was made for educational purposes. It's about the dangers of jumping in to social frenzies, something that easily 99.3% of Americans seam to do, at least from my experience. This is a problem with human culture that I have been aware of since early adolescence and have regularly had issues with most of my peers for not diving in to. The speech at the end spells it out quite well. We are all morally responsible for our behavior and group thinking, pride and social stimulation are not excuses for this behavior but admissions of guilt. One of the most important features of this movie is that it demonstrates how quickly behavior most people in our culture as perfectly normal and acceptable can and does lead to some of the worst human beings ever have and ever will commit. It's actually well known in the scientific and psychology world that acting on group stimulation and seeking of acceptance leads to behaviors as a group that we would never consider on our own. Ironically, it is extremely common to hear people go on about how bad it is only to turn around and do it literally 5 minutes alter. Hell, the person who originally shared the video with me later gave in to it herself. The only people I've seen NOT fall in to this are the ones paying attention. If you're not thinking about it, you're probably doing it in one way, shape or form. Again, this is ACTIVELY considered perfectly normal and acceptable behavior in our society and is what brings out the worst in humanity. Most people looking at it from the outside in scream about how messed up it is yet from the inside out fail to notice they themselves are doing it. Edited January 20, 2015 by MaDuce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Someone needs to show you a video on how to grow a sack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) I'm diggin' the $HIT out of that 80's hair! That's better than watching MaDuce - PLEASE tell me that you do not idolize this short film. PLEASE tell me that you do not like this, as it's "How to be a Socialist," completely... Edited January 21, 2015 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I only made it 2 min in before I realized it was like 40 min long. I'm gonna make a guess that all those kids got picked last for kickball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I only made it 2 min in before I realized it was like 40 min long. I'm gonna make a guess that all those kids got picked last for kickball. All those kids were WAY into it, until they found out that Hitler was the hero they worshipped... Some were even bummed, when they realized their Utopia wasn't real... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 You guys should have at least watched it until the "After School Special" moniker showed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Gotta watch the end. I've seen that one before. I think we had to watch that in school. Last 3-4 minutes explains it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) Last 3-4 minutes explains it all. Scary thing about this thread, though, is that MaDuce seems all "enamored" with it... Edited January 21, 2015 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDuce Posted January 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Scary thing about this thread, though, is that MaDuce seems all "enamored" with it... No, it's just a film that explains the 99% of our society for what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 You're kinda hard to read M2. It seemed as though you were endorsing this socialist clap trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 No, it's just a film that explains the 99% of our society for what it is. Then if the above is true I am a bonifide 1%er! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Then if the above is true I am a bonifide 1%er! I often feel like I'm very much a social minority. Take the time to teach your kids and grandkids leadership skills, not how to "get along" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDuce Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) You're kinda hard to read M2. It seemed as though you were endorsing this socialist clap trap. Really? That's what you got out of this? Here's a very good movie to watch. It's a true story, less then an hour long and was made for educational purposes. It's about the dangers of jumping in to social frenzies, something that easily 99.3% of Americans seam to do, at least from my experience. This is a problem with human culture that I have been aware of since early adolescence and have regularly had issues with most of my peers for not diving in to. The speech at the end spells it out quite well. We are all morally responsible for our behavior and group thinking, pride and social stimulation are not excuses for this behavior but admissions of guilt. One of the most important features of this movie is that it demonstrates how quickly behavior most people in our culture as perfectly normal and acceptable can and does lead to some of the worst human beings ever have and ever will commit. It's actually well known in the scientific and psychology world that acting on group stimulation and seeking of acceptance leads to behaviors as a group that we would never consider on our own. Ironically, it is extremely common to hear people go on about how bad it is only to turn around and do it literally 5 minutes alter. Hell, the person who originally shared the video with me later gave in to it herself. The only people I've seen NOT fall in to this are the ones paying attention. If you're not thinking about it, you're probably doing it in one way, shape or form. Again, this is ACTIVELY considered perfectly normal and acceptable behavior in our society and is what brings out the worst in humanity. Most people looking at it from the outside in scream about how messed up it is yet from the inside out fail to notice they themselves are doing it. I'll give you the hard to read part. I hear that 2-3 time a week FTF. I often feel like I'm very much a social minority. Take the time to teach your kids and grandkids leadership skills, not how to "get along" If you are trying to socially appeal for the sake of acceptance or gang up out of convenience or to side with the people you are friends with you will do wrong to others every single time. FTF I have never failed to find proof of it one way or another. This is also why I have a very difficult time trusting addicts, whether smokers, drinkers or any other substances. Thought experiment: see if you can figure out the connection between the two. Although possible, it's very difficult to have prejudices without being at high risk of harming the innocent. All of these factors are interwoven and are the chief fuel the average person contributes to the great evils of the world. If it weren't true about our society we wouldn't have a corrupt government. And in our society, it is not limited from any political school of thought. I predicted during Obama been bobbin's 1st term that he would win his 2nd by a landslide DUE, more then anything to the division caused by the conservatives and their conflicting prejudices and group thinking. And history proved me right. This is also the reason why I am convinced we are going to lose the gun control battle. Things may be swinging in our favor now but eventually the energy will die off and start swinging the other way. As long as we live by how strongly we; as groups feel about things, we will always be divided and in so will eventually be conquered. Since human beings in general live this way by default and require allot of deliberate training of one's mind to think and act free of the social order of their peers and personal prejudice, change for the better requires getting everyone to understand it, acknowledge it and willfully endure the discomfort of overcoming it and there's no way our people as a whole are going to do even one of the above, let alone all 3. I spread info like the above out of modest hope for few individuals and fools hope for society as a whole. Edited January 28, 2015 by MaDuce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 It isn't hard to predict a sitting President will win a second term , historically there is only a couple that didn't & the most recent one was Bush . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Really? That's what you got out of this? Yep. Also, Utopian societal experiments always fail. It's not the way humanity works. We are wired to form clans and a pecking order, it provides us strength challenges us to achieve more. The reason kids join in universally is because it's natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Yep. Also, Utopian societal experiments always fail. It's not the way humanity works. We are wired to form clans and a pecking order, it provides us strength challenges us to achieve more. The reason kids join in universally is because it's natural. That's why you're one of my favorite lieutenants MG...good job! Extra rations for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 That's why you're one of my favorite lieutenants MG...good job! Extra rations for you! Micro ,Did you get a demotion ? <laughs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Yeah, it appears I'm subordinate. Micro ,Did you get a demotion ? <laughs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Nope - Jon's one of the Sergeants, working hard. You're his boss, and he admires you. <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDuce Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Also, Utopian societal experiments always fail. It's not the way humanity works. We are wired to form clans and a pecking order, it provides us strength challenges us to achieve more. The reason kids join in universally is because it's natural. And Nazi Germany is no greater example of everything you're talking about. It IS true though that it can't be avoided. You've heard the famous saying, "as long as there is man, there will be war."? That is the reason behind it. History has proven that all societies eventually break down to this. Nothing the USA has done is anything new. A careful look in to world history lays out exactly where we are going and how. But a careful look at human nature tells the same tale. A libertarian society can't survive long for the same reason stuff like what Nazi Germany did is inevitable. There IS no way around it apart from the extinction of our race (and there's a whole school of thought who is bent on extincting mankind for that very reason). All there realistically is, is means of moral values and practices in which rare individuals may use to gather and ride out the wave as best they can. That is to say, if you're humble and careful enough, and think with your head rather then your ego, you MAY be able to stay out of it. Bottom line, what Germany did was really just human beings being their usual selves. All the Germans did is made an engine out of the usual human behavior that you and 99% of all people participate in. And THAT is why I am convinced we are going to lose the fight for civil rights. Civil rights are based on respecting ALL liberties, whether you like them or not. Get caught up in group thinking and you'll eventually abuse those of others. Once that happens, the precedent is then in place that will inevitably destroy ALL liberties. That train is inevitable and at this time it's far beyond stopping. Again, you're right that it's perfectly normal human behavior. That's why I am willing to bet on the eventual destruction of our civil rights. Edited January 29, 2015 by MaDuce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Nope - Jon's one of the Sergeants, working hard. You're his boss, and he admires you. <thumbsup> We know who really runs the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I ain't no officer, I'm a working man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 M2, being true to human nature doesn't turn you into Nazis. Why does everything lead around to annihilation with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I ain't no officer, I'm a working man. I thought we were all Generals <laughs> , my mistake . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I thought we were all Generals <laughs> , my mistake . Does General Malcontent count? <laughs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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