Frankh252 Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 A few months ago when I first started thinking about getting a semi-auto in the AR platform, I didn't know anything about the difference between an AR-15, AR-10 or AR-308 (except for ammo size). All I really knew was I wanted more punch than a .223/5.56 for hunting deer and I have always respected the .308Win. The first place I heard about the difference was in this forum. When I was looking around for my first AR-type weapon, I happened across a site called deguns.net and bought my Oracle from them because it was the best deal I could find ($739) while our local Academy Sports was $999. Now, after what I've heard from some members about Armalite's trademark for the AR-10 name, I find the deguns.net site curious because they don't seem to know (or care) about it and list every brand as an AR-10, including the one I bought. If Armalite is required to protect their trademark interest, they may want to speak with deguns.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Well now you have a LR308 of dubious DPMS Panther Arms heritage at a decent price. Well so do I. So how does it shoot? That is what you got it for and because it didn't cost as much as a 10 year old kid's pony right? I figure we did okay if yours shoots as well as mine does with a 200 dollar scope and a $125 trigger.I don't have a lot of bitches, it will reach way out there and touch someone a bunch of times in a few seconds, and that is a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Shoots great, not a single malfunction and is very accurate, although I only have 100 rounds through it yet. I put a Nikon Prostaff 5 2.5x10 w/BDC reticle on it for a closer look if I ever have need to shoot that far. The only thing I don't like is that nobody seems to have OEM parts for it. Maybe nothing will break, maybe it will. Or maybe I could lose a spring or pin while cleaning it some day, who knows. What I want is reliability and sustainability and that will require parts should they ever be needed. Live & learn. Before I decide on another brand, now I know to check parts availability before buying. With this DPMS, compatible parts seem to be the only option out there and I've heard a lot of talk about them not always fitting right. Reaching out and touching someone with it is not in my game plan unless it's an absolute life or death emergency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Crap. Just noticed I put this one in the wrong area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Maybe I should have said something rather than someone........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 There is a big difference in the two, no doubt. I sure hope I never have to use it for a someone, mostly because I know I wouldn't have a problem doing so if necessary. It is primarily a home defense platform after all, but it is perfectly suited for deer & hogs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I believe most Companies & individuals use the term AR 10 when talking about a 308AR , because it represents the big bore AR ,differentiates it from its little brother , yes there are differences & is why most like to define which 308AR you have because of the components differences , but its an easy term to use & you know right off the bat , if someone says AR10 , its a big bore . Armalite AR 10 owner's , I believe, are a little snobby about the use of the term & actually should be proud of the term being used in reference to their rifle's . There are many 308AR's made by many Manufacturers & to say this one or that one is better , no matter where their name came from , is lost at the gun range .? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I believe most Companies & individuals use the term AR 10 when talking about a 308AR , because it represents the big bore AR ,differentiates it from its little brother , yes there are differences & is why most like to define which 308AR you have because of the components differences , but its an easy term to use & you know right off the bat , if someone says AR10 , its a big bore . Armalite AR 10 owner's , I believe, are a little snobby about the use of the term & actually should be proud of the term being used in reference to their rifle's . There are many 308AR's made by many Manufacturers & to say this one or that one is better , no matter where their name came from , is lost at the gun range .?AMEN, I have a friend I worked with that never took the time to practice marksmanship, that thought if he bought the same rifle or pistol or shot the same handload I shot with that he would shoot as well as I did, I studied marksmanship, trained in the USMC and had been shooting and practiceing for years. I did trade several of my older pistols and a rifle to him for better stuff, he never figured out why he couldn't shoot well. I suppose he is still trading, hopeing to find his ultimate gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Armalite AR 10 owner's , I believe, are a little snobby about the use of the term & actually should be proud of the term being used in reference to their rifle's . There are many 308AR's made by many Manufacturers & to say this one or that one is better , no matter where their name came from , is lost at the gun range .?It's hard not to be proud of a rifle that runs like my AR-10, never lets me down if I do my part. The previous owner of Armalite did send letters when their trademark was infringed but I haven't heard of this happening for some time now. They mostly concentrated on companies selling parts that were not for the AR-10, actually a good service for all involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I've been somewhat divided about it myself, between thinking they're being uppity and respecting the pioneering engineering that developed the AR platform in the first place.. After I made the OP I did some looking into Armalite's history and learned that the original company has been sold & resold and isn't even owned by those original pioneers anymore anyway. So now when I hear "Armalite" I can't give it the same respect as I would if it were still the original company. For me it doesn't have anything to do with the quality of their guns and I'm sure they are very high quality and I would have no problem buying one, I just tend to respect the pioneers that develop things and less so those who buy out companies to make profits off of other people's designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 You have to give Mark Westrom some credit for the current popularity of the big bore AR platform. He took a chance and bought the name and design rights when they had been languishing in obscurity for years plus put a lot of his own efforts into upgrading the platform. He might not have been a Eugene Stoner but the man had vision.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang1952 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 I will call my DPMS Lr308 an AR10 Clone. The 308 version came first. The ARMY didn’t want the 308 but want to pussyfie the ARMY with the 5.56 (glorified supper 22) I have several poodle shooters. I won’t pay for a name. The DPMS LR308 has more compatibility with other manufactures than Armalite does. There is no milspec for the AR10 like there is for the AR15. If my memory is correct (maybe others know more) there was only two countries that used the AR10, Chili was one and I don’t remember the other. It’s just like AR15, the AR stands for Armalite period. Nobody complains about that do they? I have two DPMS LR308’s. One is a 20”rifle flat top with free flout handguard, and the other I built as an A2 carbine with triangle carbine hand guard. Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 I will call my DPMS Lr308 an AR10 Clone. The 308 version came first. The ARMY didn’t want the 308 but want to pussyfie the ARMY with the 5.56 (glorified supper 22) I have several poodle shooters. I won’t pay for a name. The DPMS LR308 has more compatibility with other manufactures than Armalite does. There is no milspec for the AR10 like there is for the AR15. If my memory is correct (maybe others know more) there was only two countries that used the AR10, Chili was one and I don’t remember the other. It’s just like AR15, the AR stands for Armalite period. Nobody complains about that do they? I have two DPMS LR308’s. One is a 20”rifle flat top with free flout handguard, and the other I built as an A2 carbine with triangle carbine hand guard. WolfI like your attitude, Wolfgang. I'll just call mine an LR-308 and leave the AR for the AR's, which I appreciate for the 5.56's ability to let a grunt carry much more ammo, if necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreQRiDeR Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 That's the only reason I bought an Armalite. So I can say I have an AR10! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 11 hours ago, FreQRiDeR said: That's the only reason I bought an Armalite. So I can say I have an AR10! ;) To each their own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 12 hours ago, FreQRiDeR said: That's the only reason I bought an Armalite. So I can say I have an AR10! ;) R2 man crush in 3...2...1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 On 2/19/2016 at 8:38 PM, Wolfgang1952 said: It’s just like AR15, the AR stands for Armalite period. Negative, Ghostrider. The "AR" designation stands for "Armalite Rifle." Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 As has been posted before: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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