1187Shooter Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm in the process of selecting my rifle, whether it be a complete rifle or parts... is there a functional/reliability advantage of going with a rifle system vs. a carbine system? I prefer the A2/fixed stock, so would prefer that, but if there is a better reason to go with a Carbine system, I'll do that and find a compatible stock that I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Collapsible stocks are good if you have Body Armor on or other large outer clothing/gear , not to mention fitment of stock for shorter arm people . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1187Shooter Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, survivalshop said: Collapsible stocks are good if you have Body Armor on or other large outer clothing/gear , not to mention fitment of stock for shorter arm people . That part I understand... the LOP, weight etc. That's all pretty straight forward. I'm just wondering if there is any difference as far as felt recoil, reliability etc... my only two AR builds were both 20 something years ago and I used A2 stocks because that's what I used in the Marines. I've handled and fired a couple of carbines since, but few and far between so nothing to compare. I've only handled and not fired a 308 AR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1187Shooter Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I guess to clarify, with an 18" mid length upper, what differences would I expect to experience with say, an M4 type carbine lower vs. an A2 type rifle lower, with all other factors being equal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Nothing you would be able to detect I'm guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) Another advantage the Carbine Stock Buffer system gives you is changeability of different weight Buffers for Tuning & felt recoil . Understand there are many factors to felt recoil ,but having the ability to change Buffer weights , that are readily available with out a custom made Buffer , is helpful . Of course that changes with the 308AR , depending what 308AR Buffer system is in the Carbine stock . It may sound complicated , but its not , basically ( we have a Pinned Thread on buffer systems) Armalite AR 10 uses a different system the the DPMS based system . AR 10 uses a longer Receiver Extension then the AR 15 Carbine Receiver Extension , their 308 Buffer Spring & an H2 AR 15 type Buffer , where the DPMS Based 308AR uses a DPMS 308 Carbine Buffer of their own design , but a AR 15 standard Carbine Receiver Extension . Both systems can be used on any 308AR , as long as the proper components for each system are used . But edgecruser pretty much sums it up . Edited August 22, 2017 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 9 hours ago, edgecrusher said: Nothing you would be able to detect I'm guessing. What I meant by this is what SS explained in a far more LOQUACIOUS manor. You can use different weight buffers with both types. There is more combinations ( to mess up too) with the carbine system. I would reference Clint's chart, from heavy buffers.com. When building I only use his parts, heavy buffers, to reduce felt recoil. Another method is using an adjustable gas block and tuning that way. K.I.S.S is a recipe to success. FYI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1187Shooter Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Well that's some good information... thanks for the input, fellas. I guess it boils down to personal preference, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) On 8/22/2017 at 8:41 AM, edgecrusher said: in a far more LOQUACIOUS manor. Oh that word , I never thought I could reach that level . Thanks Edited September 14, 2017 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 18 hours ago, survivalshop said: Oh that word , I never though I could reach that level . Thanks We can all be quite loquacious, given the correct topic... I hope @StainTrain is still using this term in his AARs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPaul Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 8 hours ago, 98Z5V said: We can all be quite loquacious, given the correct topic... I am more loquacious when given the correct amount of brandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 8 hours ago, MrPaul said: I am more loquacious when given the correct amount of brandy. Must be from the upper Midwest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPaul Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 17 hours ago, shepp said: Must be from the upper Midwest Texas bro...Texas. I don't always drink brandy, but when I do..... I always become loquasiously inappropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, MrPaul said: Texas bro...Texas. I don't always drink brandy, but when I do..... I always become loquasiously inappropriate. Didn't think anyone outside the upper mid west drank brandy in that quantity. We got a contractor my boss knew hooked on brandy old fashions he went home to TN and people looked at him like he had horns growing out his head when he ordered one. It's said Wisconsin consumes more bandy than the rest of the country combined Edited August 26, 2017 by shepp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 Brandy Alexander 's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 Mostly trannys use the rifle system....its got lil trap doors for the cleaning rod ,or rod cleaning I forget.... Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malig8r Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 On 8/26/2017 at 3:27 PM, washguy said: Mostly trannys use the rifle system....its got lil trap doors for the cleaning rod ,or rod cleaning I forget.... Wash Lmfao...Wash you are toooooo funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 On 8/25/2017 at 1:45 AM, 98Z5V said: We can all be quite loquacious, given the correct topic... I hope @StainTrain is still using this term in his AARs... Still do........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, StainTrain said: Still do........ Whao who the fucks this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 8 hours ago, StainTrain said: Still do........ Damn , nice to see you're still with us ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Hiya doin brother ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 I keep trying to draw my brother out... Sometimes it works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 As most people say about snipers................................. "Where the hell did he come from?" !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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