leadtag101 Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Howdy everyone, cool website just found while researching AR10 online! Just started my first AR10 build yesterday online with PSA for a semi long range hunting gun 100 to 600 yards. Bought a PSA lower with standard A2 Solid stock with enhanced polished trigger (one day may be swapped out) I ended up buying a 18" 7.62×51 CHF FN upper receiver on a whim without any research. Do any of you folks have any idea if the barrel on this thing could be accurate enough for the yardage described. Just curious. Figured if it was a FN barrel that it might be accurate enough. And I purchased a Burris 4-16×50 Eliminator III with pressure switch activation to go with it. Anyways thanks for any thoughts on my build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Welcome from Iowa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 I love Montana. Some of the nicest people I’ve ever met. Kalispell is still on my list of retirement cities That FN barrel should be MOA, or damn near close. If you do your part, on your end, the gun should perform out to the distance you posted. The .308 round doesn’t start getting picky about specialty parts till you try to stretch past 600. Get yourself a decent trigger, stock assembly and a muzzle brake, you should be fine after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Welcome from Wisconsin. Congrats on the build. Start running triathalons and serious weight training if you are going to be humping that Eliminator 3 on top of your 308AR through those Montana mountains. At 3.3 pounds, that scope is a load! I had an earlier eliminator and sold it as it was too heavy and destroyed the balance of my AR10T carbine, and I found with practice with a simple BDC reticle I could do as well. Out to 600 yards you will be fine with that 18 inch barrel, especially if it is a 1x10 twist, and you are using bullets in the 168-175 grain range. With all due respect I would take the time to practice distance shooting without electronic assistance, as batteries fail at the wrong time. Having the built in laser range finder is nice, though, I miss that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Welcome again from wisconsin!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadtag101 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Robocop1051 said: I love Montana. Some of the nicest people I’ve ever met. Kalispell is still on my list of retirement cities That FN barrel should be MOA, or damn near close. If you do your part, on your end, the gun should perform out to the distance you posted. The .308 round doesn’t start getting picky about specialty parts till you try to stretch past 600. Get yourself a decent trigger, stock assembly and a muzzle brake, you should be fine after that. Thanks for the helpful insight Robocop! I Was born and raised in Kalispell. Love the Flathead There is a lot of gun industry up there. There's like two gun ranges within 14 miles of Kalispell as well. Edited August 26, 2018 by leadtag101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadtag101 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, Sisco said: Welcome from Wisconsin. Congrats on the build. Start running triathalons and serious weight training if you are going to be humping that Eliminator 3 on top of your 308AR through those Montana mountains. At 3.3 pounds, that scope is a load! I had an earlier eliminator and sold it as it was too heavy and destroyed the balance of my AR10T carbine, and I found with practice with a simple BDC reticle I could do as well. Out to 600 yards you will be fine with that 18 inch barrel, especially if it is a 1x10 twist, and you are using bullets in the 168-175 grain range. With all due respect I would take the time to practice distance shooting without electronic assistance, as batteries fail at the wrong time. Having the built in laser range finder is nice, though, I miss that. Thanks for the welcome, Yeah I know it's heavy lol But when you're factoring in the fact that you don't have to Pack a rangefinder with you as well It balances out for me anyway. This is my 2nd one actually as I sold my last 1 because I needed the money at the timeBut just re bought it with the remote switch instead which will be handier .If it goes down on me I'll just pull it off and go to battle sights. I shot NRA high-power for years and in an emergency can use my open sights fairly well. I actually made some pretty fast calculations with that scope that if I had used a handheld rangfinder then had to dial In I definitely would have lost time and the opportunity to shoot when I needed to immediately. And lost the Critter I was shooting at. Yeah the scope has trade-offs all right but it is handier than hell especially with its built-in inclinometer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadtag101 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Thanks everyone for the welcome! Forgot to add that that Barrel is a 1 in 12 twist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacb Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Welcome from Port Orchard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadtag101 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, zacb said: Welcome from Port Orchard! Thanks for the welcome I actually when my mom and dad got divorced in Montana we moved out to Bremerton and then lived in Port Orchard, I went to South Kitsap High School for a while back in 86. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, leadtag101 said: Thanks for the welcome, Yeah I know it's heavy lol But when you're factoring in the fact that you don't have to Pack a rangefinder with you as well It balances out for me anyway. This is my 2nd one actually as I sold my last 1 because I needed the money at the timeBut just re bought it with the remote switch instead which will be handier .If it goes down on me I'll just pull it off and go to battle sights. I shot NRA high-power for years and in an emergency can use my open sights fairly well. I actually made some pretty fast calculations with that scope that if I had used a handheld rangfinder then had to dial In I definitely would have lost time and the opportunity to shoot when I needed to immediately. And lost the Critter I was shooting at. Yeah the scope has trade-offs all right but it is handier than hell especially with its built-in inclinometer . Sounds like you went in,with your eyes open. Should enjoy it. Electronics are great as long as we don’t see them as a replacement for training and practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadtag101 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Totally agree! Cool thing about this scope is that it functions just like a standard scope once or if the electronics go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Welcome from Texas. Others may correct me, but I'm not sure that a PSA lower will play nice with your upper. Many 308AR lowers are notorious for being proprietary and not working with other branded uppers. The PA10 is one of those in many cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 in 12 is fine out to 600+ yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRA Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 Welcome from Gulf Coast Texas. Watch your wallet and enjoy your time here. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadtag101 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Armed Eye Doc said: Welcome from Texas. Others may correct me, but I'm not sure that a PSA lower will play nice with your upper. Many 308AR lowers are notorious for being proprietary and not working with other branded uppers. The PA10 is one of those in many cases. Hey Armed, sorry I guess I didn't specify that my Gen 2 Upper with FN barrel was made by PA as is my lower, specs are as follows of my Upper: PSA GEN2 PA10 18" RIFLE-LENGTH 7.62 NATO 1:12 CHF 15" LIGHTWEIGHT M-LOK UPPER WITH BCG AND CH - 5165448933 Write a Review | 6 Questions, 3 Answers IN STOCK $ 929.99 $ 599.99 Qty:ADD TO CART FREE SHIPPING Free Shipping applies to this item only and not the entire order. SKU: 5165448933 UPC: 5165448933 MFR#: 5165448933 Barrel Length: 18" Gas System: Rifle-Length Barrel Profile: Heavy Barrel Steel: Cold Hammer Forged Steel Barrel Finish: Phosphate Chrome Lining: Extra Thick Muzzle Thread: 5/8-24 Chamber: 7.62 NATO Twist Rate: 1:12 Barrel Extension: M4-style Diameter at Gas Block: .750 Gas Block Type: Low-profile gas block Muzzle Device: A2 Style Flash Hider Receiver Material: Forged 7075 T6 Receiver Type: PA10 Gen2 Handguard Type: PSA 15" Lightweight M-Lok Free Float Rail Bolt Carrier Group Included: Yes Charging Handle Included: Yes Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Instagram! Barrel: A proprietary blend of Hammer forged chrome molly vanadium made by FN that is referred to as "Machine Gun Steel" by virtue of its required use in FN's M249 and M240 weapons. The hammer forging process work hardens the steel, making it more durable. In addition, the chrome process for the bore allows for a lining almost twice as thick as a standard M16 for enhanced durability. Chambered in 7.62 NATO, with a 1/12 twist, M4 barrel extension, and a Rifle-length gas system. This 18" heavy profile barrel is Mil-spec phosphate coated, High Pressure tested and Magnetic Particle inspected. The barrel is finished off with a 15" PSA Lightweight M-Lok free float rail and an A2 flash hider. Upper: Precision machined from forged 7075-T6 aluminum, then Black anodize hardcoated to MIL-8625 Type 3 class 2. Bolt Carrier Group: 9310 steel bolt assembly, nitride treated for durability. 8620 carrier, nitride treated, with a nitride treated gas key properly staked with grade 8 fasteners. Charging handle is also included Edited August 27, 2018 by leadtag101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 Great, you should be good to go then. FN makes some good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadtag101 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, GRA said: Welcome from Gulf Coast Texas. Watch your wallet and enjoy your time here. ? Lol,Yeah my wife's going to kick my @$$ if she finds out how much money I've spent on my Discover card in the last day or so, luckily I've got lots of overtime coming up from September on, in the machine shop where I work? Edited August 27, 2018 by leadtag101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRA Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, leadtag101 said: Lol,Yeah my wife's going to kick my @$$ if she finds out how much money I've spent on my Discover card in the last day or so, luckily I've got lots of overtime coming up from September on, in the machine shop where I work? Only happens to the very best of us ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 9 hours ago, leadtag101 said: Thanks everyone for the welcome! Forgot to add that that Barrel is a 1 in 12 twist. Stay away from the heavy stuff now. Try your loads with 150gr and see how they perform. I recently replaced all my hunting ammo with Hornady 150gr. That shit has taken everything I can find in California. The heavy loads won’t get stabilized we’ll enough for your super long distance. the big bonus... if you hand load... Sabots!!! drop a 77gr or 90gr .224 cal inside a .30cal sabot... +4K FPS of fur disintegration. Just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 Welcome from the LA swamps. I spent many years chasing oil rigs and seismic crews all over Montana. Loved the western part around the Crazy Mtns. and Big Timber. Best beef ribs EVER in Miles City at the (now burned down) "Crossroads" diner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey-Who Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 I also purchased a PA-10 Lower Gen II a few months ago and luckily it works with different Upper that are Not PSA products. I have seen and heard the PA-10 Lowers Gen I, not very "friendly". I was lucky, got the PA-10 Lower on sale a while back for well less than $200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 18 hours ago, Hey-Who said: I also purchased a PA-10 Lower Gen II a few months ago and luckily it works with different Upper that are Not PSA products. I just went through this with a PSA large-frame complete upper receiver that I was fixing for a member here. It WOULD NOT match up with an Aero Precision lower receiver. Please list all the different uppers that worked with your PSA Gen 2 lower, because I've found that their uppers and lowers are not compatible with other receivers... I'm looking forward to your feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, Hey-Who said: I also purchased a PA-10 Lower Gen II a few months ago and luckily it works with different Upper that are Not PSA products. I have seen and heard the PA-10 Lowers Gen I, not very "friendly". I was lucky, got the PA-10 Lower on sale a while back for well less than $200 Correct gen 1 sucked ass it’s been stated here a lot. But they’ve seem to have got their shit together with the gen 2 stuff, you’ve seem to done some reading, necroing year plus old threads so I’d assume you saw the pluses of gen 2 also. welcome to the forum feel free to tell us about your self in the intro section! PS I really hope you didn’t come here to burn PSA, cuz you’re just wasting your time......... and mine Edited August 31, 2018 by shepp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey-Who Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 11:08 PM, shepp said: Correct gen 1 sucked ass it’s been stated here a lot. But they’ve seem to have got their poop together with the gen 2 stuff, you’ve seem to done some reading, necroing year plus old threads so I’d assume you saw the pluses of gen 2 also. welcome to the forum feel free to tell us about your self in the intro section! PS I really hope you didn’t come here to burn PSA, cuz you’re just wasting your time......... and mine Nope, not at all to burn anyone or anything. just saw the topic and I didn't actually realize it was so old...pretty new to the site. I am actually happy with the Gen II so far, no problems, shoots well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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