survivalshop Posted May 15, 2019 Report Posted May 15, 2019 It looks different & has a weight in the BC Body & has a special coating to limit friction . Also notice, one staked Screw for attachment, maybe its dovetailed in or something also . Who's first to buy & test one of these ? https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/bolt-carrier-groups/m16-optimized-bolt-carrier-group-mpi-black-sku152000263-128171-230452.aspx?trk_msg=SAPET29O4IK497O7BC2PAULFB4&trk_contact=2JJJVUF1UDMRTL1H7DD8FULMM0&trk_module=bna&trk_sid=AJSKRHH1FEU30LK6IOQF7R2A4O&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=CHECK+IT+OUT&utm_campaign=Browse-Abandonment&utm_content=Product-Browse-Message-1
jtallen83 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Posted May 15, 2019 I want one, maybe in a few years when the price comes down a bit or someone else is making a cheaper version.
Belt Fed Posted May 15, 2019 Report Posted May 15, 2019 Another one https://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPBC-3SP BCG
jtallen83 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Posted May 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, Belt Fed said: Another one https://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPBC-3SP BCG Different animal, low mass is for a race gun not the all in for reliability of the Surefire. You could drop the Surefire in any standard AR and increase reliability, to a point, It's made for working weapons. The low mass stuff requires adjustable gas blocks and special spring and buffer system to be reliable, and even then I wouldn't use them for a duty type weapon.
unforgiven Posted May 15, 2019 Report Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, mineralman55 said: Isn't there a "rule" about this...
98Z5V Posted May 16, 2019 Report Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, mineralman55 said: Isn't there a "rule" about this... What SS did was a "product announcement..." He didn't ask anyone if they had one - he knew what he was doing... Surefire announced this awhile ago. https://www.surefire.com/optimized-bolt-carrier-group-556mm.html Quote Invented by Jim Sullivan, one of the original designers of the M16, the SureFire Optimized Bolt Carrier (OBC) is designed to improve the functionality of an M4/M16/AR variant weapon system during both unsuppressed and suppressed firing. This patented design makes numerous improvements to the standard Mil-Spec full-auto bolt carrier group which allows more time for reliable feeding of ammunition from the magazine, nearly eliminating bolt-over-base malfunctions. The OBC also delays unlocking of the bolt during the firing sequence, which allows expanding gases more time to exit the bore, in turn reducing back-pressure gases exiting the upper receiver group. Additionally, the neutrally balanced counterweight improves carrier and barrel extension lock-up, nearly eliminating bolt bounce. The OBC also reduces felt recoil, allowing for better tracking of sights and more control of the weapon when firing. Coated with an advanced anti-friction coating, the OBC resists friction during use and makes cleaning easy. For the ultimate in reliability, choose the SureFire OBC. This is the same principle as adding a heavy buffer - or heavier buffer - Surefire just put the weight in the BCG body. Pistol Caliber Carbine BCGs have been doing this for years. When Surefire announced this, it's the exact information that I want to use as an example for a certain "budget .308AR manufacturer" as to why their buffer weight is all fucked up... They (fanbois included) want to argue with me about it - then I'll just direct them towards Surefire, so they can tell Surefire how fucked up they are, in their own feeble-mind logic. Edited May 16, 2019 by 98Z5V
mineralman55 Posted May 17, 2019 Report Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 10:04 PM, 98Z5V said: What SS did was a "product announcement..." He didn't ask anyone if they had one - he knew what he was doing... You just take all the fun out of it.
survivalshop Posted May 18, 2019 Author Report Posted May 18, 2019 11 hours ago, mineralman55 said: You just take all the fun out of it. You must think I'm new here .😎
sketch Posted May 18, 2019 Report Posted May 18, 2019 1 minute ago, survivalshop said: You must think I'm new here .😎 You're damn neer a stranger.. good to hear from you brother!
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