COBrien Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) I needed something to keep my mind occupied while I wait the next 8 months to get my Griffin 30SD out of jail. So I went on the hunt for an accurate .22 WMR. Now, I know the words "accurate" and ".22 WMR" aren't typically anywhere near one another, but I've always had a soft spot for .22 WMR (and .410s), as my first long guns were chambered in each of those. At the suggestion of 98Z5V, I checked out the Savage 93 FV SR. Nice little rifle, but I hate the stock on it. Simple enough to swap to a Boyd's Pro Varmint, but that's another $150ish I'd have tied up in the rifle before I'd even like it. Long story short, I settled on the Ruger American Rimfire Target. While I'm not in love with the style of the OEM stock, it's at least laminated and attractive to look at. And, at $400(ish), not a bad bargain, either. As soon as my gun pusher notified me the rifle was in his hands, I ordered up a DIP 0 MOA scope base, some Warne 30mm Low rings, and some mags (a 9 rounder and 2 15 rounders). Then I robbed my BSA 4-14x44 FFP Mil/Mil scope off one of my 10/22s (it always looked strange on that rifle, anyhow) and mounted it up. Now to boresight it and get 'er to the range! I suspect this rifle may be my "gateway" into PRS/LRP. I'm going to do my best to avoid that. Or, at least, that's what I'll be telling SWMBO. Edited July 15, 2019 by COBrien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 8 hours ago, COBrien said: I ordered up a DIP... I suspect this rifle may be my "gateway" into PRS/LRP. DIP makes some great stuff for the smaller-caliber guns. I love those guys. Everyone needs that gateway drug, to turn them to the "next sickness" - you start to dabble in long range, and it'll fuk you up for life, brother... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRiverII Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) Very nice COBrien, congrats. I too have avoided PRS/LRP with my current 6.5cm build. No way am I getting into LRP. I think you're on to something with a .22 wmr/LRP. I can see me now. " ...I know Honey, I done messed up again. I just don't have the range necessary to compete with the fellas. Yep, you're right I shoulda bought two rifles when they were on sale. I'll keep an eye out. I'm such a jerk at times." I'm not going to pull this off am I ? poop, I need a better line. Edited July 16, 2019 by RedRiverII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, RedRiverII said: I'm not going to pull this off am I ? poop, I need a better line. Don't worry, we can work in this and polish it up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRiverII Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 poop? OK that's good enough, the emphasis was never on the exclamation anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRiverII Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Good Z, 1 minute ago, 98Z5V said: Don't worry, we can work in this and polish it up... Good, nothing like a polished presentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, RedRiverII said: Good Z, Good, nothing like a polished presentation. We start innocently. VERY innocently. First, we look up the cost of the most expensive 6.5 Creedmoor precision ammo that we can find. You know, the 6.5C you're building is for the ultimate precision, right? I bet we can find some stuff that's about $4 a round, if we hunt hard enough. After that, we start looking at "trainer rifles" and comparing some of the cost of those trainer rifles that are abnormally high in cost... but, STILL cheaper than that $4 a round that we're looking for on that Creedmoor. After that, we start comparing costsof "Trainer Rifle Training Ammunition..." Key words there, man. Fact: for comparing similar wind drift -Shooting .308 Win at 600 yards will have very similar wind drift as Shooting .22LR at 200 yards. So, we work the .22LR into the game here... THEN, we bust out .22WMR. We've already broken out the 200-600 comparo with .22LR, BUT... we break out the minimal cost difference between .22LR and .22WMR, and explain the vast difference in distance-trajectory in the benefit of the .22WMR round. (we will need data charts to show the differences at distance between the two ".22s"...). THAT IS THE POINT RIGHT THERE...that you bust out the cost of the Ruger American .22WMR bolt gun. At that point, my good man, once you've confused her with so many dollar signs all over the place, she goes for the MSRP of that Ruger American .22WMR, and she'll THANK YOU for being practical, and saving money. Hold my beer and watch THIS shiit happen... Edited July 16, 2019 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) ^^^ I used something very similar to that- with different facts on different projectile capabilites - to get @Matt.Cross into a BADASS Mk12 Mod 1 6.5 Grendel gun. It took me a year, but... I kid you not... It's all about "persistence", Red. You can beat this, easily -we just need to approach it with the right information, and right angles... Edited July 16, 2019 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 We start here, so save this. This is only assuming that we have to go "this deep" on explaining the benefits of the .22WMR, way later down the road... https://www.buckmasters.com/Magazines/GunHunter/Articles/ID/2125/The-Overlooked-22-WMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRiverII Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Yeah, yeah, uh huh, uh huh, got it got it. It's all so clear now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRiverII Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 That link sends my computer to never never land. That spinning beach ball looking wheel shows up and never stops. Forced shut down. Google the subject and same same. It must be major juju. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, RedRiverII said: That link sends my computer to never never land. That spinning beach ball looking wheel shows up and never stops. Forced shut down. Google the subject and same same. It must be major juju. It came up fine for me. Your wife must be putting filters on your internet. She's on to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBrien Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) As many times as y'all have enabled and/or encouraged me to do something against my better judgment, I relish an opportunity to return the favor. So, here you go, @RedRiverII -- a PDF of that article @98Z5V linked to. SWMBO's filters shouldn't catch this... The Overlooked 22 WMR.pdf Edited July 16, 2019 by COBrien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 8 hours ago, 98Z5V said: ^^^ I used something very similar to that- with different facts on different projectile capabilites - to get @Matt.Cross into a BADASS Mk12 Mod 1 6.5 Grendel gun. It took me a year, but... I kid you not... As long as you believe it was actually your idea, my plan worked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBrien Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 I forgot to mention... I'm now on the hunt for a rimfire suppressor. I think the Griffin Optimus Micro would be a fine addition to this rifle (and the kids' rimfire ARs). I've got some bike money left over, and it's only $500ish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRiverII Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Wow, all this info and intrigue. It's like training to be a double naught spy aka Jethro. Always a pleasure Sir, thanks for the nudge. SWMBO is in fact a bookkeeper, thank goodness for Money Orders. The last time I had $500 it burnt a hole in my pocket, really. Be judicious and rid yourself of that potential hazard. I have a definite problem in ordering from Armalite, I can't buy from them without a phone call. How do I check my security levels? On to some reading, TY COBrien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRiverII Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Nice article, thank you all. I'm liking your rifle choice more and more. Terrific tool and training device. Thankfully I haven't been pushed any closer to the canyon rim and am safely 20 yds from the edge. Nice view from here. Good Luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Red, it’s like Dante’s inferno. “Abandon Hope(of having any thing in your wallet) all Ye who enter here”.👹 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 nice purchase brother! you're gonna have fun with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunuckgaucho Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Sisco said: Red, it’s like Dante’s inferno. “Abandon Hope(of having any thing in your wallet) all Ye who enter here”.👹 I'm the only thing standing between my bank account and spending the money, if it was actually my job to be responsible I'd have to fire myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, Cunuckgaucho said: if it was actually my job to be responsible I'd have to fire myself. This very well might be the Quote Of The Year, right here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, 98Z5V said: We start innocently. VERY innocently. First, we look up the cost of the most expensive 6.5 Creedmoor precision ammo that we can find. You know, the 6.5C you're building is for the ultimate precision, right? I bet we can find some stuff that's about $4 a round, if we hunt hard enough. @RedRiverII, you ever see the movie "Inception"?... It's about the plot, within the plot, within the plot, infiniti... I planted that seed with the comment I quoted up there ^^^... We FIND that $4 per-shot expensive 6.5C ammo - let that data dwell in there for some time...and that's our gateway into spending as much as you want on reloading equipment, man... We have to cultivate this, though, and it takes time... Edited July 17, 2019 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRiverII Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 @98Z5V No, I have not seen the movie. I'll look it up. I like to save seeds. A mighty fine example of which is the $4 dollar a round seed. I'll find a way to innocuously plant that today some time. @Sisco, you have given me some valuable advice now and in the past. I found that entering any area of abandoning hope is best entered with other like minded folks. @Cunuckgaucho, we're fired, nice company of folks in that area. Lastly @COBrien, I'd opt for the can immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBrien Posted July 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 This thread has quickly devolved into Inception II: The Enablers. We've got enablers enabling enablees who enable still other enablees who become enablers of the original enablers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRiverII Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 ^^^ That's funny, and ouch so true. Perhaps we're the DogHouse Gang, Maybe start a section called 'The Pound'. I'm was in trouble way before I got here, just so much deeper now that I am here. I'm loving it by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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