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Matt.Cross

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My MAIN ISSUE is with something that can think they can CALL...  "You are 0.3 mils LOW!"

When that person does NOT have a ranging reticle, in MILS, in their spotting scope, or binos.  

THAT is Bravado, bullshiit, and not accurate.  But it sounds tough to everyone else, that's at the match.  First thing THEY think is "Wow!  This guy really know his shiit!"  

And NOT.  It was guessing, from the get go.

Sounds cool though  - until it backfires on you, as the Spotter, and someone calls you on your shiit calls...  Someone that really knows...   :thumbup:

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At distance, I can actually fuq you up with a set of these binoculars.  This is not common.

This is the reticle in them.  This isn't civilian shiit, and very few civilian companies even know this is a thing.

Steiner 8x30 M830r LRF Military Rangefinding Binocular (Mil Reticle)

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For someone to be cocky enough, without a real ranging reticle etched into the glass of their binos, to accurately measure what they are calling on you - Someone telling you that "You are 0.3 Low" - is just guessing.

Sounds tough, though.  Motherfucker, they sure SOUND like they know what they're talking about.

They don't.  That was Bravado  - looks cool in the crowd.  Most people believe it, and think they know what they're sayin....

Reality is different.    :thumbup:

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1 hour ago, 98Z5V said:

Hardly EVER.  It's a special set of glass, if you have a ranging reticle in it.  Those aren't normal.  Military Steiner Binos - those have a MIL ranging reticle in them.  Commercial, civilian stuff  - very rare.  Some do, though.  In this case I was talking about - no ranging reticle.  Guesses about what people were shooting.  Bad guesses.  

Spotting, you don't know what some asshead is running, no idea - it's either Mils or MOA.  No clue.  Most snotty Spotters ASS-ume Mils, and call that, arrogantly.  Hey, might have that MOA shooter on the line.  That's a SPOTTER PROBLEM...  Whence doing this shiit for a minute, you LEARN...  

CALL TARGET SIZE.

That's what a GOOD SPOTTER does.  Don't care what you're shooting, Mils or MO-AHS, doesn't matter.  I'm calling your last splash in relation to the target  - "you were LOW ONE TARGET, and HALF TARGET LEFT!"

If I do THAT, as a spotter, I don't have to worry about what your reticle system is  - and I don't care what you're shooting.  I gave you an accurate call, based in dirt flying, and YOU figure out what your next step is gonna be, for correction...  My input is yours - decision now is yours.

Roger that thanks for clarification. 

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