Cliff R Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 This happended last Saturday on a property behind my place. All of us living out this way knew it wouldn't have a good ending. I'll bet the two SWAT officers from the Sheriff's Office needed a change of underwear after the incident!....... https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/mount-vernon/photos-bullets-impact-to-armored-car-from-deadly-brothers-standoff/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Bad guys dead is a positive outcome, hope you are well brother 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted August 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) All good here...tks. I had a front row seat to the shooting. Woke up at 4am to let the dogs out and take a leak and heard multiple low flying aircraft and at least one helo circling overhead. Took me a minute to come out of the sleepy grog and have a reality check....hum....I'll bet it's game-on over at the "compound". The older brother had jumped bail and went missing couple of months ago. They found his ancle bracelet in my neighbors flower bed. I've been armed to the teeth since he's been on the loose. The stand-off started the previous evening around 9:30pm when the bail bondsman went to the gate at the compound to effect an arrest and took six rifle rounds thru his truck instead. This forced the Sheriff's Office to execute their warrant and end the situation. They called in some help, I think just about EVERYONE was here aside from the National Guard. The State Police helo got shot at a few times but thankfully they missed. About 7am the next morning an alert came over the phone telling everyone in my areas to stay indoors and don't come out as there was a LE "situation" going on. I gathered up my gear and took the side-by-side thru the woods and came out on the other road. Found a high spot where I could watch the armored vehicle crash thr the gate and all hell broke loose. It came back out very quickly and toward me then turned to the East. About 2 minutes later came back down and turned into the compound again. Another gun battle broke out and it came over the radio that they were "slumped over" and not moving. We have had NOTHING but issues with those two dating back at least 20 years. The only regret that I have is that I retired 8 months too soon and didn't get work the crime scene with BCI and bag them up....... Edited August 31, 2022 by Cliff R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 That’s a crazy morning. Sounds like a flaw in the perimeter of you had upper ground on the LE, and enough advanced notice to get into that position. Looks like the glass did its job, but I bet that was a bit of a surprise. Looks like a couple of well placed shots had they gone through. Glad it’s just dead bad guys, a shame it has to come to that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted August 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) The two perps were well armed and did a LOT of shooting. The older brother who was wanted on a Nationwide Federal Warrant boasted weeks before the shooting that he was an excellent shot and wouldn't hesitate to take out anyone who tried to apprehend him. So a deadly stand off was inevitable. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2022/08/22/over-1000-guns-ammo-seized-from-scene-of-fatal-knox-county-standoff/65414695007/ These guys had been getting more violent and incidents were more frequent in recent years. I had a run-in with them back in 2003 when I first moved here and did NOT know their history. Everyone with land bordering theirs has had problems with them, some as bad as getting rifle rounds fired into the their homes in the middle of the night. One bowhunter had rifle rounds fired into the top of the tree he had his climber in....while he was in it! At the intersection just South of the shooting a small group of us gathered after it was over. There were a LOT of fist-bumps and high-fives, if that tells you how much they will be missed....... Edited August 31, 2022 by Cliff R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 That is a wild day. It's good that it was only deadly for them. Who gets first dibs on the guns and ammo? It seems the neighbors should get a cut after what y'all went through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 Over 1000 firearms and at least 140k rounds is finally approaching something the media can call an arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, DNP said: Over 1000 firearms and at least 140k rounds is finally approaching something the media can call an arsenal. Yep, low on rounds per weapon but closer to the ball park than I'll ever be able to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted September 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 I'll bet the actual number of firearms ended up double to triple that number. There were four homes on the compound and it was rumored that each one had a built in armory. They also had properties in two other locations that were also supposed to have quite an arsenal in them. I don't know how the search warrant was written as to far what structures they were going to extend it to, or other properties not on the "compound" etc. Sadly in many of these cases they Courts order the weapons destroyed. I was told that most of the 1000 they found were high end sporting shotguns and rifles. It would be a shame not to see them go at auction and something good done for the community with the money. I could put up dozens of stories abount dangerous encounters folks have had with them. My encounter was relatively "mild" in comparison to most. A lot of the stories also fall into the "you just can't make that chit up" catagory, and as crazy as some of them would sound I know a few of them to actually be true...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted September 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 Here's a brief version of my first encounter with them. If you even came close to one of their properties (they had cameras everywhere) it wouldn't be minutes before they would show up. Some of those encounters led to guns being drawn and shots fired. They heavily posted and/or fenced in everything they owned.My encounter happend about 20 years ago, just a few months after I moved here. I was given permission to deer hunt a piece of property not too far from here. I did NOT realize that it bordered the back end of one of their properties coming off another road, I used a climber and went up about 50 yards from the property line, BAD mistake on my part. About 10am the morning I first hunted it a guy with a rifle cam tromping thru the woods down the fence line that separated the properties. He hopped the fence and walked right toward me like he knew exactly where I was. He stopped about 25 yards away, I waved at him to make damn sure he actually saw me. He stopped, made no gestures at all, turned around went back up the hill, hopped back over the fence and disappeared from my view. About 2 minutes later I heard a couple of people talking, then all hell broke loose. They started firing rifles. I didn't have any bullets whiz by me but the shooting continued for at least 10 minutes and dozens and dozens of rounds were fired. They were so close it sounded like they were standing beside me with each round. Of course I didn't stick around any longer than it took me to get the climber to the ground and run down the hill in the opposite direction to my vehicle.No harm done, and it's not illegal to fire guns on your property, but for sure I NEVER hunted that piece of property again.A few days later I was telling my next door neighbor the story and he laughed at me for being so STUPID! Then he commensed to fill me in on all the things those two did to anyone that even dared to hunt any property close to theirs. Seems like I got off lucky after hearing all the stories......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 Auctioning off decent weapons and using the proceeds for charities…maybe some of the fallen or wounded officer type stuff…would be awesome to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted September 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 +2 In these hard times I would be really stupid to destroy the weapons, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did. The Judge presiding over the case already chose to keep the bail bondsman $100,000. No one knows why? He was well within his rights to try to apprehend him and he only had 6 days left before the deadline. Technically he wasn't brought before the Judge for his hearing, which would be pretty hard to do at this point unless you want to dig him up. I'm certain he will appeal and get his money back....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Paladin Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 Thanks for sharing the story brother… sadly, Stories like this one are becoming more commonplace. Sounds like another prime example of… play stupid games…. Get stupid prizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunuckgaucho Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 Glad you your neighbors and the officers involved are ok, here's looking forward to a more peaceful neighborhood and good hunting not worrying about those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted September 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 It is amazing no one else was hurt or killed. They fired rounds at the OSP helicopter during the stand-off, and for over 9 hours shot at Law Enforcment that surrounded the compound. For some reason I'll never understand they left the safety of one of the houses/bunkers and took off across the property in a side-by-side. For sure that wasn't going to end well as it offered little if any protection from incoming rounds. They still made it past the first group of LE and tried to make an escape to the East. That didn't go so well so they came back to where they started drove at the armored vehicle and that's where it ended. Not sure what's going to happen to all that land, guns and other property at this point, they had no children so it all ended then and there....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 8/31/2022 at 8:42 AM, Cliff R said: This happended last Saturday on a property behind my place. All of us living out this way knew it wouldn't have a good ending. I'll bet the two SWAT officers from the Sheriff's Office needed a change of underwear after the incident!....... https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/mount-vernon/photos-bullets-impact-to-armored-car-from-deadly-brothers-standoff/ Under indictment for? but not proven guilty by a trial of his peers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted September 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 They finally got into trouble they couldn't "lawyer" their way out of. Over the past couple of decades they have commited a LOT of evil acts in my area and charged a few times but not convicted of anything significant. This time they made death threats to the Judge presiding over the case, the Prosecutor and a Lawyer. That brought additional charges and bail revoked. For some reason no one here can figure out they let him out on $100,000 bond. He cut off the ankle bracelet and tossed it in my neighbors flowerbed, then went missing. He made the decision to go out feet first instead of being tried by a jury of his peers......which......IMHO was a good one. Neither of those two will be missed, and this end of the County is a better place to live without them in it........FWIW........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cliff R said: Neither of those two will be missed, and this end of the County is a better place to live without them in it... You can always tell by the neighbors actions, their behavior over time didn't seem to foster any neighborly help, people came from around the country when the law went after the Bundy's, there's a lesson in there somewhere. Hate you had to deal with them but hey, maybe the property values will spike now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted September 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 For sure any properties bordering the "compound" will be worth more, and folks owning them will sleep better at night. One of those folks actually sold and moved shortly after he had an arguement with one of the brothers over driving equipment onto his property and doing damage when they built a portion of the big tall fence. A night or two later someone put a .270 round thru his house and it lodged in a wall! That was enough fo him and he sold and moved. I've got a slight buffer between us, but I could see the compound from my property on the other road if the trees weren't in the way....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 Glad they're gone, @Cliff R. Right now in THIS world that we've been forced to live through, we need LESS people like that. Good Riddance. P.S. Good to see you back here, brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted September 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 Thanks, glad to be back. Retired again in January and have been knocking some items off of my "bucket list" (if the tall blond that delivers mail here on Saturday reads this you are on it!) which has been keeping me pretty busy and little time for Forum's. It's amazing how it's pretty easy to work harder once you retired that you ever were before. We also bought a pontoon boat and I've been getting it cleaned up making some changes, upgrades, etc. Got that all done and going to try to enjoy some time off over the long weekend. I can lighten my gear up as well now that it's safe to go out and wonder about again...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 On 9/1/2022 at 10:11 AM, Cliff R said: They finally got into trouble they couldn't "lawyer" their way out of. Over the past couple of decades they have commited a LOT of evil acts in my area and charged a few times but not convicted of anything significant. This time they made death threats to the Judge presiding over the case, the Prosecutor and a Lawyer. That brought additional charges and bail revoked. For some reason no one here can figure out they let him out on $100,000 bond. He cut off the ankle bracelet and tossed it in my neighbors flowerbed, then went missing. He made the decision to go out feet first instead of being tried by a jury of his peers......which......IMHO was a good one. Neither of those two will be missed, and this end of the County is a better place to live without them in it........FWIW........ Sounds like those vermin got what was coming to them, sorry that it came at probably a worth while monetary expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted September 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 For sure there are a lot of folks up in this part of the County that feel that way. Can't say as I'll miss them much and for sure it will be nice to not have 2 or three plugs in every tire on all of my vehicles. Yes, at least twice a year they would litter the roads out here with sheet rock screws and EVERYONE had to get their tire plug kits out......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 This dude up here ^^^ looks like another bot. I'm just sayin'... Info: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=stevenaughtonnsx11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, 98Z5V said: This dude up here ^^^ looks like another bot. I'm just sayin'... Info: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=stevenaughtonnsx11 Yep, it looks like several came through in the last couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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