"Gun Free Zones" - don't work.

[98Z5V]

I'll get more into this with more documentation, proof, data, all that.  For now, here's the most recent article that kicked me off about this nonsense.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/02/13/the-new-york-times-has-an-embarrassing-epiphany-about-gun-free-zones-n1670169

The New York Times Has an Embarrassing Epiphany About 'Gun-free Zones'

By Matt Margolis 1:09 PM on February 13, 2023

 

 

We’ve all seen signs announcing a particular place is a “gun-free zone.” While these signs are supposed to reduce gun violence by informing would-be shooters that their firearms aren’t welcome on the site, the reality is that they are instead beacons alerting criminals to soft targets.

And it looks like the New York Times may have finally figured that out. After a murder took place in Times Square on Thursday night, the paper openly questioned why posted signs banning guns from the area didn’t stop the violence. “The shooting was the first since the creation of the expansive, signposted zone, the police said in a statement, and it immediately renewed questions about whether such a designation can truly protect the area,” the so-called paper of record reported.

“People feel emboldened to carry guns on the street,” said Tom Harris, a retired New York City police inspector and the president of the Times Square Alliance, told the Times. “A gun-free zone is not going to stop a criminal from carrying a gun.”

I have to admit I’m shocked that the New York Times acknowledged this. While I’d like to give them credit for that, the fact is the inefficacy of gun-free zones is something conservative media has been pointing out for years.

In fact, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the Pulse nightclub, Sandy Hook Elementary School, and Virginia Tech University were all targeted by mass shooters despite being gun-free zones — and that’s barely scratching the surface. According to a 2018 study by the Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC), a whopping 97.8% of mass shootings over a 68-year period occurred in “gun-free zones.”

So, while it’s great that the New York Times finally has acknowledged that gun-free zones are useless, this epiphany is decades too late.

[98Z5V]

Discuss, at will.  I'm gonna bring the data.  Bet your ass on that. 

[98Z5V]

Here's the most recent NTAC MAPS report, covering 2016~2020.  Check the source, closely, and see if they know what they're talking about.

You'll need to either download this one, or open it - it'll open in it's own browser.

https://www.secretservice.gov/sites/default/files/reports/2023-01/usss-ntac-maps-2016-2020.pdf

Here is where that report comes from:

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2023/01/new-secret-service-research-examines-first-time-five-years-mass-violence

Here's one of their articles on targeting school violence, and more importantly - how to stop it...

https://www.secretservice.gov/sites/default/files/reports/2021-03/USSS Averting Targeted School Violence.2021.03.pdf

Oh, I have more... 

Edited February 16, 2023 by 98Z5V

[98Z5V]

Here's a couple more articles on school violence prevention from them - I think they know what they're talking about, when they're talking about "protecting someone..."  Just sayin'...

https://www.secretservice.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/Protecting_Americas_Schools.pdf

https://www.secretservice.gov/sites/default/files/reports/2020-10/USSS_NTAC_Enhancing_School_Safety_Guide.pdf

Gun Free Zones are garbage, and attract violent offenders.  Period.  In a Gun Free Zone, someone hell-bent on killing people will know that they've at least got a few minutes to wreak as much havoc as they intend.  Most suck-start their own gun, when things get tense, and they're closed in on.  Chickenshiits, from the very beginning, preying upon the weak in the first place.  When it comes time to do Gangster shiit, against some real Gangsters (police show up), they don't want to fight anymore.  Hmmm.

[DNP]

Imagine that.  Signs, laws, and good intentions don’t stop criminals. 
 

 

[unforgiven]

Death penalty, empty death row. Hanging is a green method.

[Armed Eye Doc]

45 minutes ago, unforgiven said:

Death penalty, empty death row. Hanging is a green method.

I don't disagree with this statement at all.  There are many criminals that deserve the death penalty.  But it only works if the criminal is planning to escape justice for the crime and continue to live.  Most of the ones who target gun free zones to shoot as many people as possible plan to either die by their own hand or by police long before going to jail and sitting through a trial.

[unforgiven]

Take a life in perpetration of a crime get the rope.

[unforgiven]

Felony murder is the statue 

[BrianK]

1 hour ago, unforgiven said:

Take a life in perpetration of a crime get the rope.

And do NOT give them any notoriety by using their name. 

[unforgiven]

2 hours ago, BrianK said:

And do NOT give them any notoriety by using their name. 

Not one second 

[98Z5V]

8 hours ago, Armed Eye Doc said:

Most of the ones who target gun free zones to shoot as many people as possible plan to either die by their own hand or by police long before going to jail and sitting through a trial.

Exactly.  Suicide-By-Cop.  Their life is 'So bad that they can't go on anymore," so they're bullied in school (Uvalde shooter), or they're seriously mentally ill (Sandy Hook shooter), or whatever.  This is weak people standing up with a gun, because "life is hard." 

LIFE HAS ALWAYS BEEN HARD, FUKHEAD!!!  YOU NEED TO WORK, TO BECOME SOMETHING IN THIS WORLD!!!

Weaklings don't get that, and think everything should be given to them, handed to them.  Entitled.  Everything should be free.  Including women, sex, etc. 

Here's the fukhead that was gonna kill 3k women in a college, because he couldn't get laid.  Mental - and nothing is being done about the mental part.  Nothing.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15660018/incel-tres-genco-sorority-kill-3000-women-ohio/

Something off about this guy, his looks beside.  You can see it in the eyes. 

[Cunuckgaucho]

This pretty much sums up the effectiveness of gun free zones( from original article)

According to a 2018 study by the Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC), a whopping 97.8% of mass shootings over a 68-year period occurred in “gun-free zones.”

 but hey why lets facts get in the way of feelings 

[jim3326]

2 hours ago, 98Z5V said:

Exactly.  Suicide-By-Cop.  Their life is 'So bad that they can't go on anymore," so they're bullied in school (Uvalde shooter), or they're seriously mentally ill (Sandy Hook shooter), or whatever.  This is weak people standing up with a gun, because "life is hard." 

LIFE HAS ALWAYS BEEN HARD, FUKHEAD!!!  YOU NEED TO WORK, TO BECOME SOMETHING IN THIS WORLD!!!

Weaklings don't get that, and think everything should be given to them, handed to them.  Entitled.  Everything should be free.  Including women, sex, etc. 

Here's the fukhead that was gonna kill 3k women in a college, because he couldn't get laid.  Mental - and nothing is being done about the mental part.  Nothing.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15660018/incel-tres-genco-sorority-kill-3000-women-ohio/

Something off about this guy, his looks beside.  You can see it in the eyes. 

He looks like the result of multiple generations of incest.

[98Z5V]

42 minutes ago, jim3326 said:

He looks like the result of multiple generations of incest.

Looks like the kid from Deliverance, yeah?... 

Let's take that another step forward...

I'm just sayin'...  

[MikedaddyH]

6 hours ago, 98Z5V said:

Looks like the kid from Deliverance, yeah?... 

Let's take that another step forward...

I'm just sayin'...  

Stop repeat offenders. Don't re-elected them !

[DNP]

9 hours ago, Cunuckgaucho said:

 

 but hey why lets facts get in the way of feelings 

Hey….we follow the science.
 

Anyone who doesn’t listen to the nice young men in their clean white coats is bound to get taken away. Ha. Ha.