soofley Posted May 1, 2012 Report Posted May 1, 2012 If you can, would trade your $4000+ .308ar(every single part chosen and handpicked by you and assembled with your own hands) for an FDE SCAR-H plus cash?or am i crazy :cookoo: ?How much do SCAR-H costs this days? google shopping said between $2900-$3200
Matt.Cross Posted May 1, 2012 Report Posted May 1, 2012 If you can, would trade your $4000+ .308ar(every single part chosen and handpicked by you and assembled with your own hands) for an FDE SCAR-H plus cash?or am i crazy :cookoo: ?How much do SCAR-H costs this days? google shopping said between $2900-$3200No. NO. If you do it we will tie you to a chair, force bamboo splinters under your fingernails, then pull your fingernails out with pliers. Then we will treat the resulting wound with some rubbing alcohol, followed by table salt.Ok, not really, but I would advise against it. I think it really would be a crazy thing to do. <dontknow>
338FedAR10 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Posted May 1, 2012 Depends on how much cash. If it were enough to fund partially rebuilding the 308. Or i had other newer projects and the 308 didn't mean that much given the new direction. Honestly if it doesn't really gain you anything, or meet your needs then why bother. If you really want a Scar H but want the 308 as well, save your pennies and buy one, they're cheaper than what you build yourself apparently.
MikedaddyH Posted May 1, 2012 Report Posted May 1, 2012 Wait a minute , you spent $4k on a build...That includes the $1000+ scope... Right !
Robocop1051 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Posted May 1, 2012 Scar-H :puke: plastic guns are for kidsGive me a Colt CM901!!!
Retired JM Posted May 1, 2012 Report Posted May 1, 2012 If you bitched about the cost of Armalite mags, you'll have an aneurysm when see the prices of Mk17 mags. Also, what's the point of having a quick change barrel system when there are no spare barrels available?
Robocop1051 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Posted May 1, 2012 If you bitched about the cost of Armalite mags, you'll have an aneurysm when see the prices of Mk17 mags. Also, what's the point of having a quick change barrel system when there are no spare barrels available?My thoughts exactly! The CM901 changes cals from 5.56x45 to 7.62x51, and everything in between, with a simple upper swap. Additionally, all the uppers use standard AR-15 compatible mags and DPMS LR-308 compatible mags. Colt is a game changer. I don't doubt for a second that they'll swoop the next Army contract for the small arms infantry rifle.
Robocop1051 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Posted May 1, 2012 Plus, FNH can't put "our rifle killed OBL" on their résumé. <thumbsup>
survivalshop Posted May 1, 2012 Report Posted May 1, 2012 I would not , but you can . Its your life & its your money , spend both the way you want .
Robocop1051 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Posted May 1, 2012 I would not , but you can . Its your life & its your money , spend both the way you want .Lol, I used that same rational when my buddy went to his first cathouse. He brought me back a t-shirt <thumbsup>
soofley Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Posted May 1, 2012 oh am just asking for a "friend" yes...for a friend..... :-[hells i don't think i'll ever ditch my 308ar ;Dhow about AR15 for Scar-L? or FS2000? i know, FS2000 is made out of like 90% recycled plastic. Friends... they ask the stupidest questions huh! hahaha ::)
Robocop1051 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Posted May 1, 2012 The only plasti-gun I'm remotely interested in is the ACR. The FNH rifles seem like a lot of hype over performance.
Retired JM Posted May 2, 2012 Report Posted May 2, 2012 Colt is a game changer. I don't doubt for a second that they'll swoop the next Army contract for the small arms infantry rifle. Don't think the CM901 was submitted for the IC competition. Colt submitted a piston M4, IIRC.The only plasti-gun I'm remotely interested in is the ACR.Saw some pics of Remington's version of the ACR from shot. Looked much better than Bushmaster's attempt. Remmy cut about a pound and a half off the weight by going to a different profile barrel and changing the barrel change system. They also went with a 1/7 twist rather than the original 1/9. While Remington says it's not for civilian sales, you can't find a Bushmaster ACR ANYWHERE right now. My thinking is Bushmaster is getting ready to come out with a Gen II ACR in the near future.The Mk 16 isn't a bad rifle. I've fired it a couple of times. Like the lightweight, trigger was kinda heavy. Pointed well, though and accuracy was better than what you'd expect from a fighting carbine.
Jgun Posted May 2, 2012 Report Posted May 2, 2012 Since the first time I saw the Colt, I've been trying to decide if the ability to switch calibers in the field would be something that would be very desirable to the military. I haven't handled one, but have heard that they are heavier than a standard M4. They may well be lighter than the Armys present 7.62X51 AR which would be a good thing. My question is this, since the lower is not really the heavy part of the gun anyway, I can't picture a soldier actually carrying an extra upper and ammo and mags on his person. So, I find myself wondering if it's really all that great of an advantage. In the field I would think that it would be much easier to just pick up a different gun (that you know runs) vs pulling the pins, putting the other upper on, loading it, and then seeing if it operates. Same thing if you want to switch back to the first cal. I'm just not sure it would be all that great of a thing. I'd be interested to hear from those that have first hand combat knowledge, if my scenario is inaccurate/unrealistic.
survivalshop Posted May 2, 2012 Report Posted May 2, 2012 The ability to switch to a different cal. would be for special op's teams , sniper's & the like . I do not believe the individual troops would benefit from it ,maybe the designated rifleman, but as a whole , logistics would play a big part in what was carried by the troops.It may help the armorers though & as you said , more stuff to Carrie. Ammo would not be a factor (except for snipers ) there is usually, every thing from 5.56 to .50 cal around .
Retired JM Posted May 2, 2012 Report Posted May 2, 2012 I think the intent is to allow the .mil user to tailor the rifle to his mission. If he was going to be a DMR, then on goes the 20 inch upper with pre-zeroed optic. If he was going to be an assaulter, 10-12 upper with RDS."Cover me while I change uppers." wouldn't go over very well in the middle of a TIC. For a sniper team, it makes a little more sense, because it allows the sniper to have one upper for movement to the OBJ. Then when he's in the ORP, change over to the precision upper and move into the OBJ.
Dusty44 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Posted May 2, 2012 I started with a factory, off-the-shelf AR 308 Win rifle. Then I did the mods I wanted. I always had a functional rifle (other than the few minutes spent changing parts).Circumstances recently made me add a functional factory off-the-shelf M-15 to my collection. I am still doing those small mods but am close to having another rifle I want and like.There is no way I would let go of either rifle. If I felt sufficient motivation to have another style or kind of gun, I would buy one, or the parts and build it. If I had to sell an existing gun to buy a new one, or trade an existing gun, I would do (and have done) without the new one.Pardon my use of the generic term gun. My collection includes black powder and contemporary cartridge rifles and handguns of more kinds than you want to know. The inclusive term is gun.
jeffreyC Posted May 2, 2012 Report Posted May 2, 2012 Not. A. Chance.The Colt SP901 does look interesting, but I think it would add to instead of replace what I have.
unforgiven Posted May 2, 2012 Report Posted May 2, 2012 Brother JM would you explain the acronyms,got DMR..designated marksman rifle how about the others,please. <dontknow>
Retired JM Posted May 2, 2012 Report Posted May 2, 2012 Sorry about that. TIC - Troops in Contact. RDS - Red Dot Sight. OBJ - Objective. ORP - Objective Rally Point, a covered and concealed position short of the actual objective where the patrol can stop, conduct a recon of the OBJ and prepare any mission equipment prior to moving out to the OBJ.
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