Pathfinder Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Hi all,My name is Ed and I live behind enemy lines in New Yorkistan (upstate in the mountains).How I end up here is this. A few days ago a guy I know (not well, more of a guy I know through a guy) calls and says; "Hey you know that 308 AR that I have, well I gotta sell it. Some sch!t came up and I gotta generate some cash ASAP." So I asked him some details on it and what he was asking.Long story short, he tells me its a DPMS LR308. It is unfired in original box and he has the papers to show he only bought it 2 months ago. All he is asking is $800 BOOM!!!Anyway I hadn't ever really considered buying one. I have always wanted one but I wasn't ever inclined or able to try and scratch the full price together for one so I sort of just put it off to my list of "someday" guns.Well needless to say I am now $800 poorer but richer in the toy box. My wife is less impressed initially, but when I likened it to her seeing something at Talbot's on sale for significantly less than she saw it at Macy's suddenly it made a bit more sense... HA!Anyway I'm attaching some pics and am happy to start the learning. I am familiar with 308 as I shoot a Savage Tactical bolt gun competitively and my plan for this is 3 fold.1- I want to hunt with it. Big game (deer and Bear) in Northeast. I already hunt with a Henry Big Boy in 44mag but I'm thinking this DPMS gives me some flexibility at distances.2- The obvious and important "tactical" purposes.3- Target competitive shoots. Maybe switch it up with my bolt gun for the weekend shoots I participate in.I tried to attach some pics but can't seem to. I get an error report saying the max allowance is 700 mb. The few pics I have tried to lad were well below that sooooo.... I'm gonna try and figure that out cuz there are somethings I want to ask about that pics will help with.anyway, I have taken the standard detachable sight off and put a Leupold Mark 4 CQ/T that I had sitting around. It's a damn nice piece of glass but only max of 4X which will be fine for the hunting and tactical applications but not so much for the target work so I'm gonna give that some thinking.My biggest question/ wonder is the fore-end. I like the free float concept but will want to mount a bi-pod and light so that smooth tube has to go. My question is how do I get it off of there? I see from some surfing on this site that I need a special wrench. Is this an easy fix? I'm not a gunsmith. I can't seem to find any info or vids on how to actually remove this and replace it with a railed fore-end. Advice?Anyway, thanks for what seems like a friendly site. I hope to learn and even contribute as much as I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolbndfishin Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 The handguard unscrews from the barrel nut, (a good strap wrench worked for me when I helped a friend with his handguard replacement and then put it on mine). Once you're left with the barrel nut, i recommend the barrel nut wrench for the 308 dpms barrel nut (strap wrench doesn't have quite the bite to get that loosened). Most freefloat hanguard options out there use a barrel nut that's different, and will likely come with it's own wrench. Just make sure whatever you pick out is for dpms 308 pattern threads. Grats on the good deal, and Welcome :) <thumbsup>Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 hi new guy! i too am behind enemy lines in wmass. nice move with the wife, mine likes guns, not shopping, and i've used up all my tricks, so any new ones are always appreciated.now to your questions.the tube itself is mount to a barrel nut, which is screwed onto the receiver threads. the tube can be removed with a strap wrench, like one to remove oil filters from cars. it may be difficult and heat can be applied if needed. the barrel nut does require a special wrench, but that doesn't need to be remove if you change the rail, so don't worry.the railed fore end should go on to the barrel nut either two ways. 1. it will "clamp" around the barrel nut, coming in two pieces the will screw together enclosing the barrel nut and have anti rotational tabs. 2. the rail you choose may have a proprietary nut, in which case you will have to remove the gas tube, take the barrel nut off, replace it all, and done.their may be other options, but these are the most common. i suggest finding the rail you want and then we can help you from there. start shopping! and get the wife involved, never know where she can help get a sale price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder Posted October 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Thanks for the input guys.edgecrusher... where in w.Mass? I'm west of Albany.I have moved this conversation to the DPMS section since this is mostly for intro's here. I have attached a pic (finally) and I now have some more questions about the tube removal.Like I have a fixed front site post on this rifle. How would I get the one piece tube off the gun even if I could unthread it.Anyway... Thanks and I'll see ya out there in the other threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 I'm in westfield, exit 3 off the pike, Albany is about 90 mins west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Welcome from Indiana brother Pathfinder,yea smooth move with the wife <lmao> and great deal on the rifle.Good news is that's a common brand here so there is lots of info to be had.Bad news is it's gonna cost ya. <laughs> As long as you got the moves with the wife it's all good. <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty44 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 You might want to consider buying some rails than can be bolted anywhere. Drill a few holes in the right places, instant rails. A swivel mount will work with some bipods, also, and can be put in place with a single hole in the FF tube.I have a factory DPMS LR-308 and really like the DPMS tube. I used two DPMS slotted FF tubes in the scaled-down size on a M-15 and a second M-15 upper I built. Makes the M-15 look like a little brother to the LR-308. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty44 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Pics "Attach." If you do not get the toolbar with your initial post or 'reply' box, use 'Preview.'You can resize and crop pics with the picture editor in you OS; MS 7 has a very good included picture editor. Or use Paint.net, a free download from the Internet to resize. Paint.net can also put text on the pic, if you want. I have a post somewhere in this forum or in our sister forum, Tactical22.net, detailing this but could not find it quickly? Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Welcome to the forums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgun Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Welcome to the forum. Since I have not seen anyone else answer your question about removing the FF tube with the fixed front sight you have, I will attempt to give some assistance. Unfortunately the front sight has to be removed to take the FF tube off. I don't own your gun, but it looks as though your front sight is also the gas block for your gun, so after driving out the two pins on the bottom of your front sight, (I think they will be tapered and need to come out the right side) you have to use carfully applied pressure to slid the front sight forward off the gun. This will also remove the gas tube from the gun as well. You will need to either replace the FF tube with a rail no longer than the FF tube, so that you can reuse your front sight, or you will need to replace the front sight with a low pro gas block that fits under the railed handguards if you wish to use a rail that is longer than your ff tube. Maybe one of our members that has the same gun will reply with information regarding what he used to tap off the front sight, after removing the tapered pins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Hi Pathfinder great catch on the dpms! welcome to the forum :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 You might want to consider buying some rails than can be bolted anywhere. Drill a few holes in the right places, instant rails. A swivel mount will work with some bipods, also, and can be put in place with a single hole in the FF tube.I have a factory DPMS LR-308 and really like the DPMS tube. I used two DPMS slotted FF tubes in the scaled-down size on a M-15 and a second M-15 upper I built. Makes the M-15 look like a little brother to the LR-308.Yes it'slooking like the bolt onoption is where I am headed. Especially after reading Jgun's reply. (Thank you Jgun for your input). I actually like FF tube that is on there as well. I just dont like not having an option to mount a light at a minimum. I can live without the 2 options I wanted to add. But im not bashful about the drill and bolt option. Hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 http://www.precisionreflex.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=186728&CAT=4814it will mount flush to your round rail <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhouse Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Thanks for joining Pathfinder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 welcome, and congrads on the deal!im sure glad i dont have a wife and when i tell the GF that a package is going to show up, she just asks if its heavy or not:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 welcome, and congrads on the deal!im sure glad i dont have a wife and when i tell the GF that a package is going to show up, she just asks if its heavy or not:DHey Shepp Its great aint it? <laughs> my GF asks me where would I like her to put it ? <lmao> Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder Posted October 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 welcome, and congrads on the deal!im sure glad i dont have a wife and when i tell the GF that a package is going to show up, she just asks if its heavy or not:DHA! mine is actually like this as well. AND just to set the record straight fella's...My wife does not bat an eye at my "gun stuff" Matter of fact as an FYI about me (which I have reserved thus far); I own a company that for the last 10 years has taught all manner of tactical operations and firearms education for civilians, LE, Private Security and Military, called Pathfinder Operations. I did not disclose that since I did not come here as a vendor or to be seen as using the board. I am also the Tactical Medic on my city's SRTI confess this only to clear up the misconception I have fostered about my wife by suggesting I had to trick her somehow.Trust me, after 10 years of my antics with my company and everything from a no doubt crazy cast of characters who I employ and or train, my out of control gun safe and or pallets of ammo showing up and tactical gear out the wazoo; she is in no way fazed by my buying guns.That's not to say she doesn't think I'm crazy though. LOLAnyway, THANKS for the welcome. Like I said this seems like a decent crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolbndfishin Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Wash: Doesnt she just take it and shoot it? Or was that someone else that ends up having to build/buy something to shoot after the intial purchase becomes spoken for? New rule submission for approval "first to the door gets right of refusal on the weapon/accessory/ammunition!!!" <lmao>Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Wash: Doesnt she just take it and shoot it? Or was that someone else that ends up having to build/buy something to shoot after the intial purchase becomes spoken for? New rule submission for approval "first to the door gets right of refusal on the weapon/accessory/ammunition!!!" <lmao>RussOkay you're right <laughs> I buy...she helps build...then its hers <lmao> geeez I had eye surgery on Monday...and she made me assemble her new 6.8 yesterday.....with one eye no less <lmao> 8) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolbndfishin Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Lemme know how it comes out. Im thinkin thatll be my first ar15 build (the 6.8 on a mega billet set). Right after i get this pair of 1911s im about to start building done. Hope they eye healz up quickRuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Lemme know how it comes out. Im thinkin thatll be my first ar15 build (the 6.8 on a mega billet set). Right after i get this pair of 1911s im about to start building done. Hope they eye healz up quickRussThanks ! This is number three for the 6.8's...ive got one and Char has two ! She made me build her a monolithic with a 16" fluted barrel. ill get a pic up....weather and eye pending we might take it out for a test drive ! ;) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Hope you eye is ok brother Jeff,get well soon.Just got home was in the hospital over night for shoulder sugery.Block is wearing off fuckin hurts.My orto guy is into RRA also and gas guy just got a 700 Rem in 30-06. <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Hope you eye is ok brother Jeff,get well soon.Just got home was in the hospital over night for shoulder sugery.Block is wearing off fuckin hurts.My orto guy is into RRA also and gas guy just got a 700 Rem in 30-06. <thumbsup>Geeez Rene you doing ok? ill bet it hurts...was it a scope job or more intense? Take two vicodens and call me in the morning said the Doc <laughs> heres some 6.8 gun porn to make your shoulder feel betterdidnt get to shoot it today though.... you get some rest! :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolbndfishin Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Minus the mono (gonna use an apex or midwest ind 15") thats exactly what i was imagining. U copyrighted? Lol Are ya'll liking the 6.8? Never even shot it, and im very accuracy obsessed. If it doesnt outshoot me, i wont keep it. :cookoo: this is gonna be a bit more of a lightweight than i usually envision, so itll be a 16" barrel.Pathfinder, sorry for the hijack, ill quit after this. Welcome, And pm me your company info, i might some see you so you can teach me awesome stuff.Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Minus the mono (gonna use an apex or midwest ind 15") thats exactly what i was imagining. U copyrighted? Lol Are ya'll liking the 6.8? Never even shot it, and im very accuracy obsessed. If it doesnt outshoot me, i wont keep it. :cookoo: this is gonna be a bit more of a lightweight than i usually envision, so itll be a 16" barrel.Pathfinder, sorry for the hijack, ill quit after this. Welcome, And pm me your company info, i might some see you so you can teach me awesome stuff.RussHi Russ Here is one with 16" barrel and the midwest ssrail....this one is the lightest of the three and is a freakin tackdriver .the 6.8 is fun to shoot and puts the smackdown on hogs and deer....ammo is a lil pricey :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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