center19 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 First off, I'm very happy I found this site. Posts are helpful and nobody seems to be carrying an attitude, which I appreciate.I bought a used LR-308, apparently never fired - absolutely 100% condition. Smooth sided upper, no forward assist, no dust cover, and an 18" heavy barrel. I don't have a caliper, so using a tape measure the height of the rail above the surface of the upper receiver appears to be 3/4". The front hand guard which has only a swivel stud for a sling is 7.5" long. The gas block height is above the height of the hand guard and apparently the same height as that of the receiver rail. It has a standard A2 stock.I have already purchased a Magpul PRS in FDE. I'd like to find a rail system, and from the DPMS rep it would be a standard length free float, but he indicated that only a DPMS high style free float rail will work, and I will need to change the gas block to a micro.If anyone else has already gone through this changeout, and can confirm or offer alternative choices for the rail, I would be greatly appreciative. There are some feral hogs out there with my name on them who eagerly await my arrival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Yes, man, you do have the High Rider. The DPMS rep was right - there is only one rail for that upper, and DPMS makes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Welcome from Indiana brother center19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
center19 Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Does anyone know if the Troy Industries BattleRail TRX-308 12" (model number strx-e3a-12bt-01) will work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Sorry Center19, if you want your rail height to match, 98Z5V already pointed out there is ONLY ONE rail to match and it is made by DPMS. If you don't mind that the rails are off alignment, then any LR308 handguard work... Or you could try another tubular style like you have, like the JP/VTAC handguard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 That DPMS rail weighs a ton...and so does the PRS. keep that in mind if you plan on humpin it anywhere. Add some heavy glass and spare mags and you will be getting close to 20lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
center19 Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 I don't mind humping it in. Will mostly be sitting in a ground level blind waiting for the pigs to come to me, and I've got a tripod to use for shooting. I can't seem to find the JP VTAC or the DPMS (and the rep advised me to stay with the carbine length 4 rail or I'd have to mill the gas block? that can't be right) in stock anywhere. DPMS said 3 weeks for the high profile rail.Ideally the JP would be the best solution, and add 1 or 2 short rails for my hog light at either 3 or 9 position.Any help on locating these? And ammo at less than .90/per round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 (and the rep advised me to stay with the carbine length 4 rail or I'd have to mill the gas block? that can't be right) He's right, in a "drop-in" sense of the modification. You should be able to run a longer handguard, that covers the gas block, but you'll have to change out the gas block to a low profile one. That's not a major operation; relatively easy to do. <thumbsup>Something like any one of these:http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&cp=13&gs_id=1o&xhr=t&q=low+profile+gas+block&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41018144,d.b2U&biw=1280&bih=687&wrapid=tljp1358284553791028&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=DMf1UOruPMXI2wXP_4HIBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 You should be able to run a longer handguard, that covers the gas block, but you'll have to change out the gas block to a low profile one. That is exactly what I did. I picked up a low profile gas block on gunbroker.com and our very own Matt hooked me up with a DPMS rifle length vented handguard (I didn't want any rails on the handguard). The rifle looks much better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
center19 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Could someone educate me on the right Micro gas block. to purchase? There are so many different diameters and port sizes how do I know which 1 is the right 1 for my rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Pretty much any low profile gas block with a .936 I.D. will work on your barrel and fit under a mid-length or rifle-length handguard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
center19 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 so will any JP/VTAC work, or only specific ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 so will any JP/VTAC work, or only specific ones?I suggest one of these. They are LR-308 specific.15.5" JP/VTAC12.5" JP/VTAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanKreisel Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Hi there, I am new around here, so please let me introduce myself. I´m from Germany and recently my favorite dealer offered me to buy an LR-308B for an unbeatable price - well, at least for Germany it is. I made the deal and now am a proud owner of a brand-new rifle. I want to compete in IPSC Rifle Standard Division with it, so I am looking to modify it in order to mount some iron sights. As far as I can tell, there is only ONE railed handguard fitting the smooth-sided upper of that particular rifle. I guess it would be this one: http://www.dpmsinc.com/308-Standard-Length-High-4-Rail-Free-Float-Tube_p_322.html If anyone can confirm this, then I know exactly which steps to take to finally fit this rifle with the intended iron sights. Thanks a lot in advance and hopefully I can provide some images of my new black rifle, soon ;) Greeting from Germany Jan Edited November 19, 2014 by JanKreisel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) unfortunately that rifle has the goofy extra high rail one it and there's not much you can do. its primarily designed for a scope with a large objective. most guys here with that setup end up building a new upper with a standard height rail. the handguard you posted is the only one that fits. with that said, if its your only option, I've seen that setup made to look pretty decent, but its very heavy. there have been a few discussions on it in here with pictures. maybe dig back through the DPMS forum. edit...apparently I didn't scroll up and notice this is an old thread. Edited November 19, 2014 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Welcome from Idaho On the Rez..... enjoy your new toy .. and someone cop some tude for this man... hehehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Hi there, I am new around here, so please let me introduce myself. I´m from Germany and recently my favorite dealer offered me to buy an LR-308B for an unbeatable price - well, at least for Germany it is. I made the deal and now am a proud owner of a brand-new rifle. I want to compete in IPSC Rifle Standard Division with it, so I am looking to modify it in order to mount some iron sights. As far as I can tell, there is only ONE railed handguard fitting the smooth-sided upper of that particular rifle. I guess it would be this one: http://www.dpmsinc.com/308-Standard-Length-High-4-Rail-Free-Float-Tube_p_322.html If anyone can confirm this, then I know exactly which steps to take to finally fit this rifle with the intended iron sights. Thanks a lot in advance and hopefully I can provide some images of my new black rifle, soon ;) Greeting from Germany Jan Photo of your rifle or is it like the one photo posted in the first post . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanKreisel Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Thx for the info so far. My rifle still looks like the one the first post. Thursday I went through the "break-in" the way recommended by DPMS. I was as "excessively lubricated" as the rifle after that. But there is good news: I just ordered "the-one-that-fits" plus a new low gasblock. My gunsmith will have the parts by the end of the year, so I will most likely be able to post some pictures of that gun by January. And yes, I do like it loud and heavy :)) Any recommendations on iron sights? Troy Industries? Daniel Defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Fixed sights, Daniel Defense or Armalite. Flip sights, Magpul... MBUS or Pro. 45° Offset, KAC or Magpul Pro I'm also a big fan of VLTOR, PRI and Armalite gasblock sights... but that's a bit more building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I like the Troy sights and magpul pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) dupe Edited November 22, 2014 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) gas block sight won't work with that rail...maybe look into some of the troy micro sights? your height over bore is already 1/4" above normal. might be a good fit. for the record...I despise troy and normally wouldn't.recommend them, but I don't know who else makes micro sights. KAC ? Edited November 22, 2014 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 Welcome from Indiana brother Jan.What did they hit you for the rifle over there ? What are the gun laws like ? Do you have concealed carry for handgun?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanKreisel Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) Hi there, over here in Germany we have a pseudo-socialist regime calling itself "social-democratic". The only choice the people has over here is to vote about who they will give the power to control and over-regulate their lives. Gun laws are extremely restrictive over here. People get killed over 2 bucks beaten to death by thugs. Burglaries are on the rise while people are denied the means to take responsibility for their own safety in their own hands and defend their lives. Concealed carry is possible without any problems only for - guess who - thugs/politicians, their security detail and other state institutions like the police or military. Although these are not trusted with guns as long as they are off-duty. Imagine a 17-year-old trained in using an assault rifle in combat being sent to Afghanistan or another country where he is fighting "the good fight". He will not be trusted with guns chambered bigger than a .22 long rifle until he is 25 unless he is passing a psychological evaluation - which he has to pay for himself. The only country with stricter gun laws over here is the UK, and they totally banned all handguns - including AIR guns. The oathbreakers in charge in Germany are currently working on an improved version of the former German Democratic Republic. But the libertarians are growing stronger with every day and we are working on a european version of your NRA. Civil rights are not worth a lot over here these days... That rifle cost me 1.399 Euros over here. This is a really fair price, especially when considering the fact, that the next best choice for a semi-auto rifle would be a G3-clone made in Turkey. And that one would be at 1.600 bucks or more. If I could get my hands on an HK41 I would at once. Very pricey, though, at 2k or more even in used condition. So, you see, I could not withstand that offer and I got me a deal. Troy Flip-Up Sights M4 style are ordered as of today. The shape of my head is somewhat special, which is why I prefer standard height iron sights. Thanks for the support :D Edited December 1, 2014 by JanKreisel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 damn. that sucks, but thank you for writing that up. very educational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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