He ran an 870 with a pistol grip at the range last Saturday. He says no pistol grip for him. Thanks for the input guys. I tried to tell him we could watch for sales and piece some stuff together, but he wants it immediately and bargains don't do anything for him. Not sure what put a burr in his ass over this one. The department he is under doesn't even use shotguns anymore, he's says they have switched to AR's. The group he's with only runs .40cal Glock and a 30-30 lever. Ran two shotgun classes and had to get himself an 870. Yes, he's a little late in the game. He's 57. He joined up with our local mounted reserve. It's a group full of ex police chiefs and because of that, they have set themselves up with a pretty good program. He'll work one main parade, ride at the mall during holidays, and help with sheriffs on search/rescue. All the perks of being LE....not a 40 hour a week job. They insure the truck trailer and horses while on duty. When I get a little more free time, and my fat ass in shape...I'm going to join up as well. They are looking for some younger guys.