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Don't thank him yet - you need to cuss us alot more before you get to that point, man...

My .338 Fed AR is on the Wilson Combat 16" barrel. It's tack-driver, and - as weird as this sounds - softer shooting than the 16" .308 Win gun. They're built as twins, too, same gas system, same recoil system, same exact brake (I drilled up the same .308 Win brake to take the .338 projectile). Hard to explain. That .338 Fed shoots softer than the .308 Win does...

Kinda like a boat? B.O.A.T. Break Out Another Thousand. A boat is a hole in the water that you throw money into.

^^^ Solid logic.

Welcome aboard, man - can't wait to see it/hear about it. I'm originally from Zanesville.

It worked out perfectly, then. Well, almost perfectly - from recent discussions, it looks like you're gonna need another...

Delicate subject, so we need to work on how to pull this off. I think we did this one other time. She won't know what happened, by the end of the conversation, when she agrees that you NEED this... Let's work on it, practice it... The we fly it...

That's the one, brother - that's it. It's just sitiing there, waiting for me. He sent me a damn picture of the BOX, but not the gun!... He's probably got it hanging on the damn display rack, knowing him...

You never, ever should have admitted that to us...

I'm answering in colors... My M4A1 in Afghanistan was north of 10lbs - for an M4 Carbine... A 16" 7mm-08 barrel will do 300 yards with ease, and do 850 yards with ease- it's in the projectile. I can run a 16" .308 Win AR to 850 yards - with ease, and the 7mm-08 is much more "ballistically efficient" than .308 Win. My .260 Rem is a joke at 850 yards - same parent cartridge as 7mm-08 - .308 Win - and much less drop than .308 Win. The 7mm-08 will perform very similar, to the .260 Rem, more than the .308 Win. The .260 Rem is a 20" barrel, though - shortest I could find, when I built it, or I would have built it with an 18" barrel. Only reason I would have gone 18" is for distance, and I shoot these to 850 yards and longer. For a deer-killing machine, you can make a 16" 5.56 gun, if you load up some Barnes 70gr TSX projectiles for it. They can do twice that distance. For a 7mm-08, if you're looking at 300 yards as your max distance, that thing is gonna be a laser. Doesn't matter the barrel length, for legal barrel length of 16" and longer. Wouldn't matter. SO, if you're hunting it - why lug around a long barrel? Drop gun weight, drop swing weight, shoot a shorter barrel - that's the fastest way to drop gun weight, and (more importantly) swing weight. Don't be scared of the Wilson Combat barrels, because they're 16" barrels - Wilson Combat did that for a reason - Hunting, and ARs. They know what works, and why. If you're hunting 300 yards, you can do that with a 5.56 gun and 70TSX. The 7mm-08 in 16" will suit you fine. Look at the ballistics, see for yourself. .308 Win has 6 total cartridges built from it (including .308 Win). It's the parent cartridge for 5 others. .308 Win, .338 Federal, .358 Win, .260 Rem, .243 Win, and 7mm-08. I have a 16" 308 Win AR (and many others), a 16" .338 Fed AR, a 20" .260 Rem AR, and a new .243 Win bolt gun sitting at my Gun Pusher's place right now, waiting for me to pick it up. I'm two calibers away from completing the ".308 Win Family," and those two will be 16" ARs - a 7mm-08 AR in 16", and a .358 Win AR in 16". With that kind of round, expected hunting conditions, and gun weight... Why go longer on the barrel? It doesn't need to be longer, to accomplish what it needs to accomplish. I'm not going to hunt mountain goats at 1,100 yards with them... If I need to do that, I'll just take that .260 Rem AR, or the .300 Win Mag bolt gun. Different guns for different reasons - think about what your goals and reasons really are.

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Why are you hung onthe 18"~20" barrel for this gun, man? Velocity? Expansion rates of the hunting projectiles that you'll be using? Long Distance kill shots that you'll be making? What are you going to hunt with this gun, and what's the max distance that you hunt that animal at? These might seems like mundane questions, or just dumb questions, but trust me here... A 7lb Large Frame AR is gonna cost you MAJOR BUCKS, by the way, unless you're talking completely unloaded, and NO optic...

I missed this earlier - you already bought the PSA upper package?...

What are you gonna find in 6.5 Creedmooor that blow away what the guys above have given you about the 7mm-08?... You've been given some very solid recommendations. Wilson Combat for the 7mm-08 barrel, LaRue MBT-2S trigger. Tell me what led you to the 7mm-08 in the first place, man. Then tell me what made you make that last post, and doubt your original decision, and want to jump to 6.5C...

THIS. Just cut it. Measure twice, cut once. Drill that fucker out and be done with it. How much did this rail run you, anyway? It would be real easy to get a rail that meets the specs that you need, but I can't wrap my head around why you're tied up on this one, and making it work. Just cut it.

Right on.

Apparently, lot's of people hate me, brother, but that's alright. Doesn't bother me. If you get that thing, I wanna shoot it with you!...

The new Marlin Dark Series is pretty damn good looking. a 30/30 Dark came into the local gunshop - and left quick. I kinda like these: Check 'em out: https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever-action/model-336/model-336-dark-series Here's the Big One... https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever-action/model-1895-big-bore/model-1895-dark-series

That's pretty damn smart, right there.

I couldn't pin a PA-10 Gen 2 upper to an Aero M5 lower to test the upper function. I had to tear the whole PA upper down, and reassemble it into an Aero M5 upper, just to test it. The front pivot pin went into place, and something was keeping the upper from closing fully, and I couldn't pin the takedown pin. Don't let "cheap" guide your way on a .308AR build. It's cheap for a reason.

I load Hornady 150gr FMJ-BTs for my 300BLK range ammo. I have a Surefire 60. I'll try the two out for you and report back on how it works.

It happened, and it's out there, man. Noreen Firearms, their BN36. They have a few models available: https://onlylongrange.com/bn36x3-carbine-30-06/ https://onlylongrange.com/bn36x3-carbine-x/ For Cali's: https://onlylongrange.com/bn36x3-carbine-x-30-06-featureless/ The big one: https://onlylongrange.com/bn36x3-long-range-270-25-06-30-06/

HELL YEAH!!! Did you only buy ONE?...

I'm looking for the thread on that build, and can't find it - but I will. Here's an interim pic: Finally found the build thread on this gun.

By the time you add a .30 Cal muzzle device to it, it's gonna be longer than 12.5",and more .30 Cal muzzle devices are around 2.5" long. Even with thread overlap, you'll be pretty close to 15", or a little over - muzzle device selection will determine that, nothing more. I shortcutted this process with a 13.5" Armalite barrel, and Armalite's Competition brake. It's barely over 16", so I pinned/welded it. I run a full stock on it, and it's legal, because (pinned and welded) my total barrel length is at or over 16". It's one badass little .308.