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There are some times when billet is (or might be) a benefit over forged, but those times are few and far between. Rainier Arms makes a 5.56 Billet Ultramatch upper receiver, which is held to some pretty tight tolerances - the most important of those tolereances if the machining of the front face of the upper receiver - it the front face of the receiver is truly square and true, then the barrel mates up to it square and true - it's more accurate. Same thing can be done on 5.56 rifles by truing the front of the upper - no such thing is out there for 308ARs yet. Someone needs to make it. Here's the Rainier Arms Billet Ultramatch upper info: CNC machined from solid billet 7075-T6 aluminum which is 70% stronger than the commonly used 6061 aluminum and finished with milspec hardcoat anodize to a surface hardness of 60 Rockwell. Renewed design to work with 99.9% of all accessories, including; the Magpul BAD lever, Daniel Defense Lite rails and even features the pre-drilled alignment hole for the Noveske NSR Rail. If you want to build the best upper money can buy, look no further than the Rainier Arms UltraMatch Billet Upper. Extremely robust yet weighs in at a mere 9.3 oz. Made in the USA. Life Time Warranty against defects & workmanship 90 day - Satisfaction guarantee - 100% money back with no questions asked The most critical features are: Parallelism between the picatinny rail, main center bore and the centerline of the mounting lugs Perpendicularity between the centerline of the lugs and the barrel mating face (at the front of the threads) Flatness of the barrel mating face We are holding .0003 or better on all of those measurements. Competitor uppers are between .001 and .003 on the perpendicularity and parallelism. Configuration: A3 Flat-Top A4 Flat-Top - w/M4 Feedramps *** Upper Parts Kit Installed *** I have two of these uppers on my own rifles, and I can't say they're more accurate than a standard upper - but I CAN SAY that the two rifles with these uppers are fucking stooopid accurate. One is my billet ARF lower build, and the other is the 20" Woody National Match rifle. Both those rifles are fucking ridiculous accurate. The 14.5" ARF billet gun is the one we use to shoot steel at 575 with a red dot - bets against each other.

I don't know how far off that building is, but I'm picturing about 200~250 at most. I don't know what the camera angle is, but if my ass was sitting right there, I'd call 175 to the mouth of that building. That thing might be a hell of alot bigger than it looks in the pic, and be alot more setback, but I'm not seeing it. 175. Shot out.

About another 1 hour before the final stuff comes out of the oven.

By the way, that not 700 yards from this point of view. Just sayin'...

I'm down for that... <lmao> It's so close to his shop - he's gutless if he doesn't try it... That's full-on sprint distance-to-denial, right there... <laughs>

This was YOUR recon. Those tiny tidbits of info would have been helpful in your first post, not some follow-up post. Based on what you've presented NOW, I can only come to one conclusion. Well, maybe two conclusions, here. 1. You need to be FAST. 2. If you can no longer sprint for more than 200 yards, then you definitely need to start working out before you decide to shoot the "Range," Bro, you gotta get faster. Or, your range dreams are just that - dreams. If I were you, I'd start listening for calls to those local agencies - they're so close, you should hear them rolling out. Based on that, when you hear them rolling out, you need to sprint out of your shop and TRY TO RACE THEM. No $hit, try to race those trucks, every time you hear them called out. Hold on now, there's some truth in my posting... If you do this "training regimen" everytime those trucks roll out, one day you'll be at the point that you BEAT THEM... YOU WILL BE FASTER THAN (BOTH) THOSE TRUCKS, AND THEIR CALL TIMES!!!~! THAT right there will be the "Lance Armstrong" of incident response. Minus the blood=doping, of course (you can hit that if you want - achieve your goal faster, I guess). When you hit that point, Brother Shib, you should shoot that range. I'm not kidding. Nobody would be able to prove it's you anyway, with the outrunning of the response. You're safe then, man! GET IT!!! :banana:

I have so many Aero lowers and uppers on AR-15s that it's not even funny. None has ever been an issue. Now, based on that, I don't have an Aero .308 set, either upper or lower. I'd be shocked (like a Guantanamo Detainee) if any of their stuff was out of spec. They don't slouch. They only put out great stuff.

^^^ I'm with him. I'm waiting for the mainstream news article about a "teacher" shooting an armed school asssailant. What we'll never see is the real info that the particular teacher in question is a NRA High Master or USPA champion, or something like that. WAY more proficient than any local LEO would be, had the local LEO made it to the scene in time to do anything in the first place... (Not the fault of local LEO response times...).

...and this is not the AR-15. Not trying to start anything - many people think that because they've got experience on the AR-15, that they're good on this platform. Not the case. Wait for your info from Lilja on ammo, and wait for the info from your builder. On the bright side, had you built this yourself, then only person you could blame at this point is yourself, if it comes to a build question and not a barrel/ammo question. That's the whole reason I don't ever have anybody build my stuff - I don't want anyone else's hand in it, if it's wrong, because they will always say it's not their fault...

NATO STANAG 2310 was the ratification of .308 Winchester ammo into the NATO inventory, and that happened in 1957. That was ratified as the inclusion of the 147gr .308 WIn load as 7.62x51 NATO. It's 147 grain ammo. Pull one down for verification, because that's only what they say it is.

Ship that biotch to me and I'll see if I can print a decent group with it... :))

This is gonna be sweet.

Contact Lilja and ask them for an ammo recommendation. <thumbsup>

One way to find out. Depending on the results, I'll start with your Facepalms... <lmao> Nut up and shoot it. <dontknow> It's close enough to your shop that you should be able to sprint back before local LEOs arrive. I condone your chances... <dontknow> :banana:

Painting that Redi-Mag is gonna be a severe pain in the A$S. I hope that bastard works once it come out of the oven. Same thing for the EOTech - it's going in the oven.

Patriot Brown about to come out of the oven. Upper, lower, rail, receiver extension, EOTech hood. Mixed a custom color for the rest of the stuff. Tonight it will be assembled. Everything on the PB was mixed with the hardener at 24:1, so it's all flat as hell. Same thing gonna happen with the custom color. This will be a...

No way, GI! FAI DORRA!!! <lmao>

Once that new nail bed is formed underneath... THE TWO CAN'T JOIN!!! <lmao> That nail is done, shepp. Thing is gonna fall or rip off, and it stinks underneath... <laughs>

PVC doesn't last, because people shoot the shits out of the PVC. They won't hit the target, but they can shoot the shits out of the PVC... <dontknow> Done this exact setup, with DNP, for an AZ shoot. I think we have video proof...

We do it for every Embassy, every Politician, every Hollywood Celeb (personaly paid, on their part, I get it). Bloomberg hates guns, but he's got armed security. That's a fucking oxymoron. Or, just a MORON. Bottom line is this - there's lot's of poop that is pretty damn important to protect with guns, but politicos don't think out children are one of those things. They'll BANKROLL all kinds of protection, but they're all the more ready to say that schools are no - NO - place for any kind of firearms or security. Almost every bigger school I have seen in the past 8~10 years now, they have a SRO - "School Resource Officer." Policeman, armed, at school. Why not have MORE of them? They don't even need to come from the Local PD, and tax the hell out of the PD. Make them contractors, as stated above. You won't find a more qualified person to handle an attack on a school, than a retired military member that's been downrange in the last 12 years. That's a pretty big field to pick from - schools can be selective if they want. Qualified applicants are out there... a plenty...

OP, Make sure that NOT Lake City 1974 30-06 ammo... Buy some .308 Win and compare it, or measure the case length, based on the above. Shib, that thumb is impressive. <thumbsup> We need updates, as it leaves... <lmao> I can't tell you how many of those things I've smashed and lost... :eek:

YESSSSS!!! I KNEW that thing was a goner!!! Smashed enough of them to know "the look..." <lmao> Keep us updated, Shib - pics are preferred. It's only about 1.5 weeks from flying off in the shower now. Unless you get impatient and tear that thing off with a pair of pliers... <laughs>

NAILED IT!!! <lmao>

That's what I'm thinking. As demonstrated in the past, please allow me to translate for Drew... Here's the :wtf: brother, right here. What Drew meant to say was... "I've been killing it in the gym. I'm a fucking ANIMAL now. My Cardio is through the roof, and my Muscular Strength and Endurance have never been this good. I think that fucking rod the guy planted in me was made of Unobtanium, because I've never been THIS BAD OF A MOTHERFUCKER. I go into Biker Bars and just talk shits about Japanese bike being superior... Just so I can kick some Biker ass. I go to the gym and pick out the Big Guy, and work out next to him. I squat 400, just to watch him squirm - and he squats 550. Right after that, I just squat 800, drop that shits, and walk away - looking over my shoulder, of course... Fucking PissAnt. What's REALLY got me worried here - I really do think there was something with that rod, made of "Unobtanium." I think the Doc planted that thing in the wrong place!... Don't get me wrong, my back is unbelievable, but my DICK WON'T STOP GROWING! I get the whole "weight loss = the Optical Inch thing," but DAMN!!! I'm at 17 INCHES now, and when this thing gets hard, I fucking PASS OUT! I need to start that blood doping thing, like Lance Armstrong, just so I have more blood in my body. Once I do that, I can support MY WOOD. Based on that, and knowing I need to do it now, I feel relieved. As soon as I start that process, I'll be back to normal, guys, and I'll be on here more to tell stories. By the way, the Little Woman didn't know this was going on - but she's not complaining. Love you guys, I'll be back to normal soon. Miss you... "

No worries, brother - my bitch ex-wife picked up the boy last night, before I got home from work. I'm painting a rifle tomorrow... <thumbsup> I'da still driven down to see you, even though you got it resolved. I wouldn't have told you this part, but I'd get Jon involved in the sneak-attack, and you would have been wearing a black hood and Zip-Ties... <lmao> We'd MAKE YOU SHOOT AT HIS RANGE!!! :bat: