98Z5V Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 I never notice the new PMag for the .308ARs until I was cruising DSG Arms tonight... PMAG 25 M118 LR/SR GEN M3 Window The PMAG 25 M118 LR/SR GEN M3 Window is a 25-round .308 Winchester PMAG which is compatible with M118 LR and other match ammo under 2.830″ in length. It still features the same 25-round capacity, constant-curve body, anti-tilt follower, snap on impact/dust cover, and transparent windows as the standard variant, however The M118 LR/SR GEN 3 Window features a red follower to differentiate itself from the standard PMAG 25 LR/SR. Features *Optimized for use with 7.62x51 M118LR or other .308 Winchester match ammunition with a max OAL of 2.830" *Commercial rifle compatibility includes the new Armalite AR-10A, Bushmaster .308 ORC, Colt LE901-16S, CORE Rifle Systems CORE30, DPMS LR308, JP Enterprises LRP-07, KAC SR25, LaRue OBR, Les Baer .308, LMT .308 MWS, LWRCI REPR, Mega Arms MATEN, POF P-308, Remington R-25, Ruger SR-762, S&W M&P10, SIG716, and othersNOTE: NOT compatible with Armalite AR-10B, Noveske N6, Springfield Armory M1A, Rock River Arms LAR8, FN SCAR 17S, PTR-91, HK417 or any other rifles that utilize M14, FN FAL, or HK 91/G3 patterned magazines Next-generation impact and crush resistant polymer construction Constant-curve internal geometry for smooth feeding Anti-tilt, self-lubricating follower for increased reliability High-quality stainless steel spring, black-oxide coated (MIL-DTL-13924D) Anti-glare translucent MagLevel windows on both sides of the body along with a painted indicator on the spring allows for easy determination of rounds remaining from 1 to 25 Ribbed gripping surface and new aggressive front and rear texture for positive magazine handling Paint pen dot matrix panels on the bottom of the body to allow for identification marking Flared floorplate aids magazine handling and disassembly yet is slim enough for use with many pouches Multi-use Impact/Dust Cover minimizes debris intrusion and protects cartridges from potential damage during storage and transit NOTE: To accommodate longer than SAAMI-spec match ammunition, this magazine may not drop free from all makes of lower receivers.
ChaseFan9 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 Nice find, how long have those been out? Also, post up a link so I can cuss you out for making me spend more money <lmao>
98Z5V Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Posted August 5, 2015 Not sure how long they've actually been out - just found out about them tonight. Here's the link: Mags Start cussin'... <lmao>
MikedaddyH Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 Forgot to mention ,it cost $5 more to fill it !
survivalshop Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 NOTE: To accommodate longer than SAAMI-spec match ammunition, this magazine may not drop free from all makes of lower receivers. Made for heavy Bullet Sniper ammo ?
jtallen83 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 I've been waiting for someone to give these a try.....can't afford the "rule" right now so I didn't mention them...........
DNP Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 See the fashion Tom used? Make it a product report in this section...you're safe. We already tried that one in court. Tom won. Just don't ask who has tried one, or how well do they work.
blue109 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 I used 118 in my normal PMAGs just fine. Wonder how much more room they crammed in there and if it hurt them at all?
mineralman55 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 I bought the 25 rounders a few weeks ago, but haven't had the chance to try them out. Not sure of their utility, just wanted them.
planeflyer21 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 I used 118 in my normal PMAGs just fine. Wonder how much more room they crammed in there and if it hurt them at all? I wonder if they have the same or better capacity that the polymer FAL mags for the Rock River do.
survivalshop Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 With my most recent experience with the 20 rd. Gen 3 PMags I have , that are so tight in the Mag well , you have to use your whole hand to pull them out & both malfunctioned , I would not want to try another that might be the same way. I like mine to drop free , but I could see if the speed of a mag drop would not be a problem in a concealed static position . I would think the tightness would be fore & aft , would not pose as much of a problem as the pressure on the sides ,like my 20rd. Gen. 3 Pmags ,that are not reliable . Still have not heard back from Magpul , if they don't contact me by Friday , I'm calling to bitch.
shepp Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) I've got a 25 round windowed mag it fits like all my other mags, GOOD. Mines different than this one tho my follower is gray, mine just says pmag 25LR/SR W. Edited August 5, 2015 by shepp
survivalshop Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 I have two also of the 25 rounders & they fit fine in all my 308AR's , but the Gen. 3 ,20's don't . That's what I find strange , they are all Gen. 3's . The first Gen.'s are fine also .
shepp Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 I have two also of the 25 rounders & they fit fine in all my 308AR's , but the Gen. 3 ,20's don't . That's what I find strange , they are all Gen. 3's . The first Gen.'s are fine also . Odd i don't think I've got any gen 3 20's I've got 10's and 25's
ChaseFan9 Posted August 6, 2015 Report Posted August 6, 2015 I've got a gen 3 20 and it drops free from my Matrix lower. It feels just the same as my 25 rounders, though, maybe just an out of spec lot?
Malig8r Posted August 6, 2015 Report Posted August 6, 2015 Not sure how long they have been out but they were on sale as part of Primary Arms "blazin summer sale 2". They were $17 ish. I was gonna grab a few but already have 20 of the regular grey follower 25 round mags.
survivalshop Posted August 6, 2015 Report Posted August 6, 2015 Odd i don't think I've got any gen 3 20's I've got 10's and 25's I know the 25's are Gen 3 , at least the ones I have are , the 10's , depends on when they were bought , the new ones read Gen. 3 . They had to make more room for the heavier bullets , tis why the will have a problem fitting some Receiver .
survivalshop Posted August 6, 2015 Report Posted August 6, 2015 I've got a gen 3 20 and it drops free from my Matrix lower. It feels just the same as my 25 rounders, though, maybe just an out of spec lot? These are measurements of the samples I have . I think I got some from a bad batch also . 20 rd. first Gen. 20 rd. Gen. 3 25 rd. Gen. 3
shepp Posted August 6, 2015 Report Posted August 6, 2015 I know the 25's are Gen 3 , at least the ones I have are , the 10's , depends on when they were bought , the new ones read Gen. 3 . They had to make more room for the heavier bullets , tis why the will have a problem fitting some Receiver . My 10's have an m3 on the bottom of them I assume that means gen 3
survivalshop Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Called & talked to tech support at Magpul , first thing he asked me is what color of follower I had in the Mags I was having problems with , they are a gray/green color . They asked to send a description of the problem & some photos , so I sent them the ones from my previous post . He did say the same thing 98 said about the catch area & said it may need to be trimmed , up then I told him about the differences in widths & they wanted to see for them self . I told them there was no way I was going to trim 30-40 thou. off the sides of the mag . & still trust it <dontknow> You know , they never answered my first E-mail , wonder if I have an issue with my email , I guess I wait & see. Edited August 13, 2015 by survivalshop
ChaseFan9 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 Glad you finally got a response, SS, I can't wait to see what conclusion they come to.
survivalshop Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 They emailed for a return shipping address for a return shipping label to send to me & they will evaluate them for replacement or repair .
ChaseFan9 Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 I forgot to mention, I test fit my new 25 Rd M118LR in my Matrix lower, and it fits just like any other gen 3 PMag. It even drops free on an empty mag.
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