planeflyer21 Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 It worked! http://www.grindtv.com/wildlife/fishing-guide-kills-grizzly-bear-charges-within-feet-clients/#G16CY06eJdt7yhRK.97 He's currently shopping for more durable underwear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 I read that a little while ago , If an Arrow can kill them , why not a 9MM . Its the first guide I have ever heard of carrying a 9MM in the bush , but what ever floats your boat . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Just now, survivalshop said: I read that a little while ago , If an Arrow can kill them , why not a 9MM . Its the first guide I have ever heard of carrying a 9MM in the bush , but what ever floats your boat . Right most guys carry a large cal wheel gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted August 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, survivalshop said: I read that a little while ago , If an Arrow can kill them , why not a 9MM . Its the first guide I have ever heard of carrying a 9MM in the bush , but what ever floats your boat . Ever see the bucket of sand demo between an arrow and a .357 Magnum? I can't find a video of it but the broadhead arrow goes right through a 5-gallon bucket of sand. The .357, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 8 hours ago, planeflyer21 said: Ever see the bucket of sand demo between an arrow and a .357 Magnum? I can't find a video of it but the broadhead arrow goes right through a 5-gallon bucket of sand. The .357, not so much. Thats true , but Heavy Bone can cause issues with an Arrow's penetration , where a 357 mag. will have a better chance of it ,not to mention Trauma effects . Has any one seen William Shatner shot that Grizzly with a Bow ? It was a long shot & the Bear ran after the shot but succumbed to the double lung shot .The Guide had a 458 Mag rifle as a back up & when they went into the Bush to retrieve the Bear . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted August 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 No but Captain Kirk vs Grizzly would be worth PPV! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 I can't find a thing on that hunt , but I watched it on TV , isn't that strange , I remember them waiting for an hour or so ,before they went in there after it in the tall brush . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Was it +P ? JHP ? 147 gr.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Phil Shoemaker has been around in and writing about Alaska for a good long time, and it surprises me that the kill did not involve a lever action 450 Marlin. But no matter, the 9 worked. Not my choice, but it worked. I figure all three people involved had to change their panties right away tho. Just sayin, WOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 9mm ammo has come a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Its all about shot placement. If the bullet hit a bone and bounced off , the story would have been; "Hunter mauled by angry bear after being shot by a magazine worth of 9mm rounds." Cameraman deficates underwear while running back to camp to get a rifle. "My buddy should have carried a big wheel gun and he would be alive today." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 No doubt shot placement was the key. As it always is in stopping a threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) Unforgiven you are so right about shot placement being the key. If it is me In the Bush in Alaska, 44 Mag or bigger. In Montana/Wyoming grizzly country, 357 Mag maybe. If auto, pack a 10mm. Everything else is lowering your chance of coming out alive, which is still not real good. You want to up the odds , pack a 12 gauge riot gun with rifled slugs, preferably with a penetrating tip. One thing about a 9mm, it does have exceptional penetration given its ballistics. Wonder if he was shooting ball or jacketed soft point? My bear load in a 44 or 357 is a jacketed soft point, just to get a bit better penetration over a hollow point. Edited August 20, 2016 by Sisco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 I have to agree with this assessment brother Sisco.. I am impressed with the 10mm and 12ga with slugs for big uglies. Advantage of 9mm is low recoil for a little better control and high capacity mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, unforgiven said: I have to agree with this assessment brother Sisco.. I am impressed with the 10mm and 12ga with slugs for big uglies. Advantage of 9mm is low recoil for a little better control and high capacity mag. I normally hunt deer up here with a 30-06, but a number of years ago a neighbor built a house near my property that crowds the property line, which cuts into the safety factor of using a high velocity rifle. So when I hunt that part of the property I use a 12 gauge slug gun instead, still keeping a considerable distance away. The two deer I have shot with it act totally differently. With a rifle, even with a heart shot, they go down, get up and run 50 feet or so then collapse. With the 12 gauge slug gun they go down, period. One was a running shot that I hit it in the neck. Didn't matter. Went down and stayed down. Where I hunt a long shot is 75 yards, so I am using the 12 gauge slug gun more often and the 30-06 less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted August 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 hours ago, MikedaddyH said: Its all about shot placement. If the bullet hit a bone and bounced off , the story would have been; "Hunter mauled by angry bear after being shot by a magazine worth of 9mm rounds." Cameraman deficates underwear while running back to camp to get a rifle. "My buddy should have carried a big wheel gun 10mm polymer Witness with MikedaddyH handloads he would be alive today." FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 57 minutes ago, Sisco said: I normally hunt deer up here with a 30-06, but a number of years ago a neighbor built a house near my property that crowds the property line, which cuts into the safety factor of using a high velocity rifle. So when I hunt that part of the property I use a 12 gauge slug gun instead, still keeping a considerable distance away. The two deer I have shot with it act totally differently. With a rifle, even with a heart shot, they go down, get up and run 50 feet or so then collapse. With the 12 gauge slug gun they go down, period. One was a running shot that I hit it in the neck. Didn't matter. Went down and stayed down. Where I hunt a long shot is 75 yards, so I am using the 12 gauge slug gun more often and the 30-06 less. Food for thought.....I have a choice of 3. M5,Garand, or Mossy 590A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 hours ago, planeflyer21 said: FIFY That is what I told my dog when I picked him up at the vet, and he wasn't very happy about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbas4570 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Hunting deer with my 45/70 vs. any of the other calibers I have hunted with resembles the remarks about them going down first and staying there, versus getting hit and running off for a bit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 On 8/20/2016 at 4:27 AM, MikedaddyH said: Its all about shot placement. If the bullet hit a bone and bounced off , the story would have been; "Hunter mauled by angry bear after being shot by a magazine worth of 9mm rounds." Cameraman deficates underwear while running back to camp to get a rifle. "My buddy should have carried a big wheel gun and he would be alive today." We have a winner ,shot placement is always the key ,having said that I have a friend who guides up there and he carries a shotgun pump 870 stainless and loads it buck,slug buck slug buck slug.... and says at 15 ft and under it is deadly to anything..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Shot placement or a lot of luck , in that situation , I will take one or both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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