Texas Church Shooting - ended quickly

[Cliff R]

......and I'll bet the guy carrying it knows how to use it.....

[Petersburg]

A horrible situation capably handled by a concealed carrier, who made a great head shot and dropped him cold.

[Albroswift]

A lot of folks I shoot with would have missed 6? 11? 17+1? times. 

[392heminut]

"It's Texas, brother!"

Hell yeah!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/across-denominations-san-antonio-churches-have-members-armed-and-ready-at-services/ar-BBYwcrY?li=BBnb7Kz

I love this;

"When the assailant at the church in White Settlement opened fire, at least half a dozen other congregants drew their own weapons and began moving up the pews, news reports indicated."

Edited January 1, 2020 by 392heminut

[Cliff R]

"A lot of folks I shoot with would have missed 6? 11? 17+1? times." 

.....and probably at HALF that distance IF they shoot like most of my friends!.....LOL.....

[carverelli]

On 12/30/2019 at 8:50 AM, 392heminut said:

I'm hoping that this sends a message to anyone contemplating this shiit that there is a chance that you will be dealt with swiftly and decisively if you try it! Even in a place you might think would be gun free!

I've noticed there hasn't been any pictures of the coward that started this mayhem

..only the interview of the hero that took him out.

If anything, they could show the hero holding up the head by the hair with the bullet hole through his forehead....you know,  as kind of a deterrent 

[98Z5V]

There was a First Responder and the Second Responder in that video footage.  The Second Responder was Jack Wilson.  One shot, head shot, at distance.  The First Responder had a very hard time getting to his gun, clearing his gun, and he got shot.  He was not the person that the shotgun was aimed at.  He stood up, and it took him too long to get his gun out (from his middle of the back carry, with a suitcoat on), and the Bad Gunman took aim on him and pulled one off.  Jack Wilson took tare of it quickly, but not before Bad Gunman turned that shotgun on the innocent dude in the dark suit in the upper right corner of that video.

Lessons learned - and there are lessons to be learned.  Practice your draw.  Middle of the back carry is not efficient.  3 O'Clock at the very most, especially if you're a designated security person.  Appendix is the fastest draw.  Train, train, train.  Draw, draw, draw. Dryfire, dryfire, dryfire. You can't possibly train enough, for every situation, but you can still train. The more scenarios you throw in, the more stress you throw in, the better you can react to something that you've never thought of training for.

It's absolutely shiitty that the firstguy lost his life - and the second guy - but that first guy telegraphed what he was doing when he first stood up, then had trouble getting his gun out and presented.  That small few seconds cost him his life.  Learn from it, change what you do, if that's what you do...  Don't carry in the middle of your back.

[98Z5V]

9 minutes ago, carverelli said:

I've noticed there hasn't been any pictures of the coward that started this mayhem

He's all over the internet now... Long rap sheet, going back years, with violence...

Keith Thomas Kinnunen, 43

[carverelli]

59 minutes ago, 98Z5V said:

He's all over the internet now... Long rap sheet, going back years, with violence...

Keith Thomas Kinnunen, 43

i want to see him with the fatal gun shot wound in his worthless head

[SimonSays]

1 hour ago, carverelli said:

i want to see him with the fatal gun shot wound in his worthless head

I think it would look something like this.

(Cartoonish I know, but it helps me. Enjoy eternity in Hell, you M'fukin' SOB! )

[MikedaddyH]

357sig @ 1500 fps does slot of damage quick !!!

[unforgiven]

On 1/1/2020 at 5:58 PM, 98Z5V said:

There was a First Responder and the Second Responder in that video footage.  The Second Responder was Jack Wilson.  One shot, head shot, at distance.  The First Responder had a very hard time getting to his gun, clearing his gun, and he got shot.  He was not the person that the shotgun was aimed at.  He stood up, and it took him too long to get his gun out (from his middle of the back carry, with a suitcoat on), and the Bad Gunman took aim on him and pulled one off.  Jack Wilson took tare of it quickly, but not before Bad Gunman turned that shotgun on the innocent dude in the dark suit in the upper right corner of that video.

Lessons learned - and there are lessons to be learned.  Practice your draw.  Middle of the back carry is not efficient.  3 O'Clock at the very most, especially if you're a designated security person.  Appendix is the fastest draw.  Train, train, train.  Draw, draw, draw. Dryfire, dryfire, dryfire. You can't possibly train enough, for every situation, but you can still train. The more scenarios you throw in, the more stress you throw in, the better you can react to something that you've never thought of training for.

It's absolutely shiitty that the firstguy lost his life - and the second guy - but that first guy telegraphed what he was doing when he first stood up, then had trouble getting his gun out and presented.  That small few seconds cost him his life.  Learn from it, change what you do, if that's what you do...  Don't carry in the middle of your back.

If appendix with a semi auto doesn't work a short barrel revolver works. Especially if you're table muscle is in the way , like mine is.

You can be sure the anti's would have crucified the guy had there been any collateral damage due to his discharging his firearm.

Look at the media making that Iranian general look like the victim. Politicians openly siding with the enemy. Sickening

Seems like when there oath of office was taken it was just words. WTF

No aid or comfort to the enemy

Edited January 5, 2020 by unforgiven

[Magwa]

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