blue109 Posted May 23, 2025 Report Posted May 23, 2025 12 hours ago, 98Z5V said: Why wouldn't you aggressively protect your copyright, brother? You invented it. Armalite did it for years, with the use of the "AR-10" term. Then, they just gave up, and we now have some truly shiit "AR-10" products on the market now - that aren't anywhere near AR-10 in the least. it's one thing to protect your copyright, it's another to make it part of your deal with the devil to stop litigating you. they are basically saying "we will stop coming after you, as long as you help us crush anyone else who dares to come up with their own version" If that's how it went down, that it's basically akin to being on the ATF payroll.
98Z5V Posted May 25, 2025 Author Report Posted May 25, 2025 On 5/23/2025 at 8:14 AM, blue109 said: it's one thing to protect your copyright, it's another to make it part of your deal with the devil to stop litigating you. they are basically saying "we will stop coming after you, as long as you help us crush anyone else who dares to come up with their own version" If that's how it went down, that it's basically akin to being on the ATF payroll. The exact "deal" made, brother, is quite simple. Have you researched it? "The Deal" was that Rare Breed gets to keep what they have, because it IS legal, and it IS NOT a "machinegun" per the very, pinpointed definition of the law that was passed in 1934. The NFA. "The Deal" is - you do you, Boo - run with scissors, Rare Breed. Just AGREE that you will not develop this technology for Handguns... ATF was very specific in using the term "Handguns" in that agreement. They didn't say "Pistols." There is a difference between the two definitions. A "Handgun" accepts a magazine in it's grip, and it semi-auto. A "Pistol" is a revolver - it DOES NOT accept a magazine in it's grip, at all. Fine line... The ATF definitions are spelled out - not because of the ATF, but because of lawmakers that made the law. SO, "The Deal" was... You can have the technology - the courts say so. Once we drop this, agree to NOT develop this technology, for Handguns... What, exactly, does not make sense about that? I don't want Glock switches running willy nilly all over the place, and being called "legal." There's too many stupid gangbanger MFers out there... Let's discuss...
blue109 Posted May 26, 2025 Report Posted May 26, 2025 (edited) it's a machine gun or it it isn't, regardless what gun you put it in. I fully support forced reset triggers for handguns, even though I have no interest in owning one. Not sure how ATF can tell them not to develop it for certain platforms. either the trigger is legal by their definition, and they can kick rocks, or it's not, and they can continue the courtroom bs. but my issue was with the the part where they agreed to go after anyone else developing similar technology as a part of their dismissal deal....according to the other video. I hadn't seen that anywhere else, so if that video was inaccurate, it's a non-issue. If they did sign on to that, it's shitty. seems like a lot of compromises were made when it looked like they were about to win free and clear. I'm not a fan of 2A compromises. Edited May 26, 2025 by blue109
98Z5V Posted July 7, 2025 Author Report Posted July 7, 2025 Just under 4 seconds per 30, brother - I like your trigger discipline.
98Z5V Posted August 27, 2025 Author Report Posted August 27, 2025 (edited) Rare Breed let's it rip... 1.5 hrs long, but worth it. Explains alot that Mike bitched about, towards the end of this thread, lately. Edited August 27, 2025 by 98Z5V
shooterrex Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Same trigger in large and small.frame ARs. Think someone had a video of a FRT in a large frame on hear a while back..
Belt Fed Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 OK, nice. will an Atrius or Arc Fire work in a 308. i don't have a drop in frt and the way rare breed is suing everyone i won't buy one of theirs.
shooterrex Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 I have one of the Hoffman super safety in a small frame. Haven't tried it in a large frame. If it ever warms up I might try it in a large frame. 10deg and snowing again right now.
Belt Fed Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Pretty sure the Atrius and Arc fire wont work. don't think they are wide enough. may be true with the Hoffman too.
Belt Fed Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Guy at the gun shop said somebody was working on one, can't remember who it was. been a while back when he told me.
Armed Eye Doc Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Here is an alternative to the Rare Breed. It doesn't say if it works with large frame ARs. Trigger groups are the same. You should be OK if it has the correct type of bolt carrier. https://partisantriggers.com/the-disruptor/
98Z5V Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 On 1/31/2026 at 4:47 AM, Belt Fed said: OK, nice. will an Atrius or Arc Fire work in a 308. i don't have a drop in frt and the way rare breed is suing everyone i won't buy one of theirs. Read the details of the agreement with DOJ that they were forced to sign, which made DOJ get off their as$, and not pursue it anymore. It was bribery, clear and straight forward, on the part of DOJ. Don't blame Rare Breed, unless you've fully read that agreement, and fully understand that agreement. It has nothing to do with them. It's all on DOJ, for that bullshiit... My $0.02, having read the whole thing...
98Z5V Posted March 2 Author Report Posted March 2 This just doesn't stop. It's back... I trust this guy, and his opinion - he's never, ever led me to believe anything different...
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