shooterrex Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 I suspect your dimples are not straight under the gas port. You can fix that. Take the gas block off and look at the carbon ring around the gas port. Is it centered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 you have the correct info here 1 shoot 168 or higher bullets not cheap one but match ammo...if you handload you will have to try more than one powder and bullet combo and find the correct charge weight and bullet seating depth but in that you are limited to what the mag will allow 2 get a one piece scope mount and a rally good scope IF you want to shoot long range it should be no problem to ring steel out to 800 or 1000 if you do your part how far down the rabbit hole do you want to go? to get there you have to do your part and don't skip or go cheap get good gear and you will only buy once. to shoot long range you will need good dope and that can be had buy shooting at all the different yardages and gathering it your self or get a shooting app i like applied ballistics or BallisticARC either one will work, you will need to have your round run through a chronograph so you know what your true velocity is... and you will want a dead nuts zero i mean center of the button at 100 yards remember 1MOA at 100 is 1 inch at 800 yards it is 8 inches so get the zero down but first find the ammo your barrel likes that is the foundation.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) One thing I noticed, and I may be completely wrong & was taught wrong, but I was always taught to mount the Rings or mount to the gun 1st then add scope and tighten down everything evenly. Dust bunny started clamping down Rings on scope 1st, then mounting on rifle & had issue tightening down with binding Edited May 28, 2021 by Lonewolf McQuade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustBuster Posted May 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lonewolf McQuade said: One thing I noticed, and I may be completely wrong & was taught wrong, but I was always taught to mount the Rings or mount to the gun 1st then add scope and tighten down everything evenly. Dust bunny started clamping down Rings on scope 1st, then mounting on rifle & had issue tightening down with binding Haha, I like that name sort of. Well, I basically did that but then I loosened the top rings enough to easily turn the scope and later I slid it forward some, then retightened. I figured my scope was going to be the perfect straight starting point, and then I found out maybe that there is a slight variance with the rings or my rail. After retightening top of rings, it is basically the same as your method. I’m still trying to find out from my brother how big his medium quality Vortex scope is.... in case I buy one of that size. That will probably make me refrain from buying a lapping kit for this old 1” scope. 14 hours ago, shooterrex said: I suspect your dimples are not straight under the gas port. You can fix that. Take the gas block off and look at the carbon ring around the gas port. Is it centered? I may in the not to distant future take the gas block off, and replace it with a fixed block I got from KaK. The cheap variable I have on now and the fixed KaK have different dimple locations, so I’ve only dimpled my barrel so far in the one common location between the two. I left that option open until I commit to one or the other. Do the extreme Marksman here use only clamp on gas blocks for fear of inducing stress points on their barrels? I read that recently elsewhere. Edited May 28, 2021 by DustBuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, DustBuster said: Haha, I like that name sort of Sorry for that, auto correct bit me apparently 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustBuster Posted May 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 15 hours ago, shooterrex said: I suspect Hi shooterrex... just a quick question for you in regards to your Space Cannon scope.. Are Monstrum scopes Unimpeachable? Im never gonna be practiced enough to be in the High Class of shooters, but to gain some practice with turrets etc, I think I saw a monstrum first focal plane scope. Probably a waste of money, but I don’t have five Hundy extra anymore. Don’t everybody slap me for asking about a Monstrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 If you want to get into a superb entry-level optic on a small budget, I suggest getting one of these: https://www.eurooptic.com/vortex-venom-rifle-scopes.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, DustBuster said: Don’t everybody slap me for asking about a Monstrum No, you definitely deserve slapped upside the head for that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Lonewolf McQuade said: One thing I noticed, and I may be completely wrong & was taught wrong, but I was always taught to mount the Rings or mount to the gun 1st then add scope and tighten down everything evenly. Dust bunny started clamping down Rings on scope 1st, then mounting on rifle & had issue tightening down with binding that IMO is the preferred way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, Magwa said: that IMO is the preferred way... Oh good,, means dad was right about 4.5 things now! (Out of 7,697.5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpete Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 4 hours ago, DustBuster said: Well, I basically did that... No you didn't. As i understand it you clamped the rings to the scope in what looked like being straight. Then clamped the rings to the upper. Then opened the rings and moved the scope. If the rings were ever so slightly out of whack when you clamped them to the upper they were still out of whack when you moved the scope. That is why the preferred method is to clamp the mount/rings to the upper first. Its easier to get it straight that way. Then mount the scope and make adjustments as needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 3 hours ago, DustBuster said: Probably a waste of money, but I don’t have five Hundy extra anymore. Don’t everybody slap me for asking about a Monstrum You shouldn't waste your money on something that's effectively worthless. Put that money in an envelope and throw $5-20 in it every week until it will buy you that Vortex Venom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunuckgaucho Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 Buying a tool that you know will not do the job is money that's wasted rather then going towards buying what works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belt Fed Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 Never heard of Monstrum, had to look that one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustBuster Posted May 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) Ok, my head is ringing because I did get plenty of sense knocked into me. Vortex Venom it is, Thanks Matt Cross and the rest of you “Dads”. The Nifty scabbard I got for my gun which barely lets everything including the bipod squeeze in will then become a waste of money once I get the Venom,,, the rings also. I will try some new ammo and better shooting posture, maybe a good bean bag for the back...I’m sure the Monstrum scope is cheap Chinese crap, a roll of the dice whether you get a marginally good one or a flawed one. The same deal exists in the radio world....Baofengs and Wouxons on the reviews, some happy some sad; better off to buy a Kenwood or an Icom/Yaesu. I buy the best feedline LMR400 and wire things up properly with good grounding, etc. Some radio ops make homebrew equipment which sparks things up and that’s ok if they are crafty. I do waste a lot of time when I’m too lazy to find an Allen wrench but I happen to have a teensy Weensy Torx bit that fits good enough. That kind of mentality with gunsmithing is bad news. I need to beat myself silly before 98 does. Goodbye Edited May 29, 2021 by DustBuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterrex Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 The monstrum scopes are cheap Chinese scopes. I have 2 and they hold zero so far. They are on short range toys. My serious guns get better scopes. I always install the rings first and then install the scope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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