edgecrusher Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 OK, cashed in my points on my credit card for Cabela's gift certificates, going to buy a reloading set up. What I need from you guys is your top choices in powder and primers for reloading .223 and .308 rounds. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantawolf Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 On my 308, I am using IMR8208 and CCI #34 primers, I think they are the 34... Military primers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatwins Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Reloading will be the future. I have a feeling the grabbers will go after factory ammo hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hodgdon Varget powder for both 5.56 heavies and .308 Win.CCI 400s and 41s for .223/5.56 reloading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Reloading will be the future. I have a feeling the grabbers will go after factory ammo hard.The Wicked Witch of The West has already said civilians do NOT need to be able to purchase black OR smokeless powder, wanting to tack it on to a new AWB.Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I use Winchester primers for the bulk of my reloading, but if they aren't available I'll use whatever else I can get. I'm with Tom on the Varget powder for 308. In .223 I'm using H335. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFail Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 For .308 I need to make the decision what I will stick with among the few I've tried. This will be IMR 4064, Hodgdon Varget or Hodgdon CFE223. But I'm thinking i'll pick two of those. The CFE for 175+ weight bullets & one other for 168's. I'll get a 8 pounder of each even though we're only allowed to possess 8 lbs max at any one time.Primers I have 1400 rem #9 1/2 LRP, a few hundred CCI br2, WLP, CCI 200. Should more primers though. Bullets I like Hornady AMAX 168's & 178's. I would like thousands of those but, ya' know....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I even run Varget on the 5.56 55-gr reloads - the lighter ones. Somewhere between 27.0 and 27.4 grains will have them singing. My reason for Varget is simple - it works very, very well with alot of calibers, and those are the calibers I have. I run it for 5.56, .308 Win, 30-06, and I'm temped to try it for 8mm Mauser, when I get the dies and brass to start reloading that one. I can stock ONE rifle powder, for the guns I own and shoot. <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Varget,H335,H322,Imr 8208XBR,RL15.Win WLR,Win WSR, CCI #34, CCI #41,Fed GMM__. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I use a narrow range of powders , you will find that some bullet loadings will perform better with different components, be it primers or powder or both ( don't forget brass ) . The only primers I don't use are the Wolf brand .I test & chronograph different bullet loadings with different primers & powder charges to get the best results with a particular load be it rifle /pistol. Its not just the FPS its also consistency in grouping & I usually find its the SD ( standard deviation (low number )) that will produce consistent groups . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy1600 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 CCI 41 and 34 primers on all my loads, I use Varget alot but I also like to use military pulldown powders;844 = H335846 = BLC2I like to buy in case lots 32 lbs at a rip, (keeps the same lot) You need a chrono to work up your loads, but once you are dialed in you have pleanty of powder on hand... here is a good link for Surplus powder info...http://www.223reloads.com/home/223-5-56-info/223-5-56-reloading/wc-846-loadsI have a company I deal with that offers sized 308 brass for a reasonable price, most of the 223 brass I save from annual qualifications... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy1600 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I usually find its the SD ( standard deviation (low number )) that will produce consistent groups . I agree, I have tried a broad range of powder loads and have consistently found that the lower amount of grains per load has brought the highest consistency in tighter groupings. Plus you are not beating the crap out of your action with the lower loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasprite Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Picked up 8 lbs. of CFE 223 & 4 lbs of Unique along with a 1000 lr primers yesterday at the gun show. Was one of the first ones in so plenty of stock was left. Seemed like everybody was looking for magazines at the time but when that drys up I'm shore everybody is going to want to feed there EBR's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectrascott Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 I am in the same boat. Bought a SS press and started looking for brass and whatever I can find. I have almost everything collected for .308 just trying to figure out the 300 black now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 CCI 41 and 34 primers on all my loads, I use Varget alot but I also like to use military pulldown powders;844 = H335846 = BLC2I like to buy in case lots 32 lbs at a rip, (keeps the same lot) You need a chrono to work up your loads, but once you are dialed in you have pleanty of powder on hand... here is a good link for Surplus powder info...http://www.223reloads.com/home/223-5-56-info/223-5-56-reloading/wc-846-loadsI have a company I deal with that offers sized 308 brass for a reasonable price, most of the 223 brass I save from annual qualifications...I also use WC 846 for my 308 & 5.56 ammo ( & 30'06 ) , have been for over twenty five years, could be more . I'm down to my last 8#, so I need to get some more .Mind your loads with this stuff , as said, lot to lot could have different results in chamber pressures. The cost & it being a good powder, makes choosing it easy for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Ok, so this week I pulled the trigger so to say. I ordered a RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme Master kit, .223 and .308 RCBS full size dies and shell holders, and today on a lgs shopping spree (apparently no one has bought any reloading stuff ) I acquired three pounds of Varget, 3000 CCI #400 primers, 200 Sierra 77gr bthp mk's, and 100 Sierra 168gr bthp mk's. Waiting for the kit, it was on back order at Cabela's, so I burned up all my gift cards, they say it will ship 1-25-13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Nice acquisitions, my brother. Very nice.The Varget is a score - if they have more, consider hitting them up again. Also nice on the primers - the 400s are good, and don't let some people scare you about using them in an auto-loader. There are stories out there that the non-srung AR firing pin sets them off when you chamber a round. That may have happened somewhere, from a high primer, but I've never had it happen in properly loaded cases.Projectiles are hard to find right now... The Varget will run the two types you found, and run it very well. <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectrascott Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 You waited to long on the RCBS stuff. They had a 50 dollar rebate up until the 31st when it was over. Good score on the Varget though it is hard to find around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Good job ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFail Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Edge, might want to think about going back now and picking up any Varget they got left, if any, seriously.Congrats on your purchases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy1600 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Edge, might want to think about going back now and picking up any Varget they got left, if any, seriously.Congrats on your purchases. Good Luck , I have been looking for some myself, all my distributors are out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Ya , its 2007 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Ya , its 2007 again.That's no kidding. It seems much, much worse this time, though... :-[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmeworry Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 You waited to long on the RCBS stuff. They had a 50 dollar rebate up until the 31st when it was over. Good score on the Varget though it is hard to find around here.They are running the rebate this year as well. http://www.rcbs.com/pdf/2013_RCBS_US_Jan1_Dec31.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 <thumbsup> Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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