greenmist Posted April 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Oh I know, going against the grain where everybody is just begging for crude oil in their watersheds, what was I thinking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Deflection, and mis-direction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 It's a leftist tactic to take information and skew it as far out as possible to prove a point. That's where I was headed with your water comment. Does that mean I want to dump in the lake?...no. But I'm not going to compare apples to cow turds and sell you a point. BP spills again. We should just ditch those pesky oil based products and move back to the Stone Age. We need oil...maybe you don't, but most of us do. Accidents happen. I've seen a whole lot of bitching about what has happened here, and what has happened there. What's your idea of a reasonable solution that can be implemented today? Let's talk about moving forward. Where do we go from here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmist Posted April 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 It's a leftist tactic to take information and skew it as far out as possible to prove a point. That's where I was headed with your water comment. Does that mean I want to dump in the lake?...no. But I'm not going to compare apples to cow turds and sell you a point. OK, one more time: it was a point of view of a Republican Governor on water as a natural resource, NOT mine. If you believe that a Republican Governor was using "leftist tactics", in his discussing the value of fresh water vs. oil? I'd say I'm not the one manipulating, twisting, or misdirecting. I have not been disrespectful (trolling) at anytime, and have actually said "Thank You" in closing some posts-if that's trolling...? I'm not the one making parting shot posts. Let's move forward: If you do not like my opinion in a thread, don't read it. However, just because you do not like my opinion, do NOT take it as being disrespectful or trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 So, you're saying you don't own a semi auto 308 rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) OK, one more time: it was a point of view of a Republican Governor on water as a natural resource, NOT mine. You sure pitched it as your opinion - you didn't quote $hit from anyone, mention anyone - just pitched it. I'm not the one making parting shot posts. Let's move forward: If you do not like my opinion in a thread, don't read it. However, just because you do not like my opinion, do NOT take it as being disrespectful or trolling. Kiss my a$s - I'll read any thread on this board I want to, and just so you know - your "opinion" is pretty hard to get away from, when you're posting EVERYWHERE. Dude, you have more to say than any number of combined members on this board, and you push your agenda all over the place. Just tone your bullshitt down a little, and try to give people a chance to like you. Right now, people do not like you... Take that for what it's worth. Or not. Edited April 25, 2014 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I skip over the really long comments and links to info wars after the first 10 of 297 posts sheesh its almost exhausting on a cell screen! So, you're saying you don't own a semi auto 308 rifle?+1^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmist Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Some years ago we had a great ® Governor here, Lee Dreyfus. Just going from memory here-he made comment that we in WI need to protect our waters as..." someday they'll be paying $50 a barrel for oil but our Great Lakes water shed will be priceless." Here is exactly what I wrote about the water, giving 100% credit to who said it-not me. On page one. It's no "leftist" twist of an argument as someone above mentioned. No I do not have "a .308 rifle", I have (3) of them right now, and as I mentioned earlier (1) of them is an ArmaLite AR-10. A 20" T model. I'm pretty sure I posted a pic of it here somewhere, but I did not realize this was a requirement, except for harassing people whose opinions you disagree with? "Kiss my ass." & "You just don't know when to quit do ya?" This is the reason A LOT of us in L.E. now have to wear cameras as part of our uniforms now. Those are what we call "fire starters" and/or a "parting shot" : Supervisors hear THOSE words from an Officer on the street and know they have a liability problem in their unit. Paperwork to come soon. Have a nice day, and Thank You for sharing your opinions about British Petroleum's corporate responsibility to fresh water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmist Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Dude, you have more to say than any number of combined members on this board, and you push your agenda all over the place. Dude, I have less than 300 posts and you are approaching 9000 posts. There's a simple math problem there, that peers into your personal problem. I have no agenda to push, and the most "controversial" threads to you, I did NOT start. So please tell us what YOU believe is my agenda. I have not been disrespectful of others or their opinions ; as I asked earlier, please show me where I have been a disrespectful (trolling) member. I believe that a couple of your comments made at me have been more disrespectful and trolling. We disagree, we present links and ideas to each other : learn something or agree to disagree. It's been really adult-like until you started pushing for your agenda-whatever that is. Part of MY agenda has been to share information-sales happening on AR-10s, saving members here a lot of money if they choose to buy. I have answered some basic pistol questions as I am a factory certified L.E. armorer for SIG and Glock -being helpful I thought. Guess not. " Right now, people do not like you...." What kind of 3rd grade bullying $hit is that? Really, it sounds like something coming out of a 10 year-olds mouth. That's pretty funny. Am I remembering correctly-do you REALLY work in LE at some capacity, or am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 This thread is about to die.Fair warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) [quote name="greenmist" post="101173" timestamp No I do not have "a .308 rifle", I have (3) of them right now, and as I mentioned earlier (1) of them is an ArmaLite AR-10. A 20" T model. I'm pretty sure I posted a pic of it here somewhere, but I did not realize this was a requirement, except for harassing people whose opinions you disagree with? I think the point is the major majority of your posts are "political rants" and this is a gun forum after all? Not that I'm some outstanding poster of gun related topics and conversation I try hard to cover all the bases. Maybe a better way to put it would be, maybe you should cool it alittle and try not to be so argumentative...........IMHO Edited April 25, 2014 by shepp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'm with Matt on this one. We should just lance this one and be done with it. After all, we all talk about more than just weapons from time to time, but this is just spinning outta control. A "flat spin" for you fly boys out there. And green. Dude, we're a patient bunch. We're a pretty diverse (yet tight) group around here. Just take your foot off the gas now and then. There's plenty of time to get any point across. NOW! Can we get back to tits and rifles for christ sake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) ^+3 I'm surprised a person in you're position has so much to say ? I have no one looking over my shoulder but word to the wise just lookin out if that is the situation? Edited April 26, 2014 by sketch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmist Posted April 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 This thread is about to die.Fair warning. Respect that. One item though: BP evidently still quantifies oil volume per barrel, as 55 gallons. I took somebody's word for it as only being 42 gallons now, but BP and WI DNR measure differently. It was a 55,000 gallon spill here in WI, 2012. http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/Spills/Jackson.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Hi Green I asked you about your feelings of George Soros and never got an answer so.....? :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 http://www.shell.us/products-services/solutions-for-businesses/pipeline/pipeline-america/terminology.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 And your link refers to a gasoline spill, which would be why it is measured differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Respect that. One item though: BP evidently still quantifies oil volume per barrel, as 55 gallons. I took somebody's word for it as only being 42 gallons now, but BP and WI DNR measure differently. It was a 55,000 gallon spill here in WI, 2012. http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/Spills/Jackson.html The article I read stated that BP reported 39 barrels, 1638 gallons of oil spilled at Whitney. That's 42 gallons per barrel. If they used to measure oil by a standard contrary to industry standards they don't any longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 http://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/investors/results-and-reporting/glossary-of-terms.html Look under B for barrel and you will be shown that BP uses the same standard as the rest of the world. 42 gallons. I know, we are arguing the completely wrong topic right now and who cares...42 or 106 doesn't matter. What matters is that rather than do a little research, you will regurgitate whatever info you find that you think is correct. You have been accused of spreading misinformation and I don't doubt it. If you can muddy the waters about a FACT this clear, how polluted are the rest of your lines? Normally I wouldn't even care, but because you threw up a link in defense of your original statement that makes zero point, and again took a stab while doing it, I do care. I'm done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 No I do not have "a .308 rifle", I have (3) of them right now, and as I mentioned earlier (1) of them is an ArmaLite AR-10. A 20" T model. $hit, if I count bolt guns into the mix, I've got about 9 .30-caliber rifles. I think the question was about semiauto .308s, though... <dontknow> It's all about the FACTS, right? Dude, I have less than 300 posts and you are approaching 9000 posts. There's a simple math problem there, that peers into your personal problem. You're right. It's a simple math problem. Actually, I jointed this site on or about January 10th, 2010. Today is April 28th, 2014 (for me right now). In 1569 days, I have 8865 posts with this one. That's 5.65 posts per day. You made your first post here on Feb 4th, 2014, and have 306 posts to date - 28 April 2014, again, by my time. In 83 days, you have 306 posts. 3.69 posts per day (with mathematical rounding that you do in grade school). You're trying to insinuate something about the number of my posts, when I've got two more posts per day than you? I guess that's how you do your math - like a politician? We can turn statistics any way you want. If you want to go there. That doesn't really "peer into my personal problem," as you state. Just shows that you don't know what you're talking about. Again. Oh, and I was never LE. Never claimed to be. Never, not once, ever on this board, or anywhere else. Just so you know. <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 5.65 creditable respectable and some times hilariously insane!!!! Dickhead has been there since I've been around just what you want in a bro. We all have our nitch here. Your left shoe is off? http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lZaqXSzF-ic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmist Posted May 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 494,000 hits on YouTube for "BP oil spill", so there must be a creditable interest in the topic... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bp+oil+spill Interestingly enough someone above mentioned we ALL need to use gas/oil in our daily lives, and I say no: we all have a CHOICE to moderate and change our daily use of petroleum products as an option. We can make a change or not. However, we cannot change the fact that clean water is mandatory for living ; if not for the thousands of eco-systems we depend on for foods, but for the water itself to drink. Now, this has brought to mind a much more important topic to me: 2A rights and those political discussions about it. For some reason we cannot get through what is PERceived Interwebs tone or attitude on clean water issues, and people ASSUMEing automatically that my political affiliation MUST be a left wing nut, and the ONLY course of action is to gaslight and organize an electronic dog pile. This is an unfortunate example of why we are continuing to lose 2A rights at a faster rate than before, while still pumping more money into Orgs like the N.R.A. with almost increasingly negative results. Think about it; We are paying more money to our lobbyists with NRA and GOA, etc., while LOSING more of our 2A rights. Why is that? We've become more divided and that needs to change, or start buying up the large PVC piping for burying guns & ammo in the backyard. (I'm not throwing rocks at the likes of NRA/GOA-I'm saying it's time to do more than writing those membership checks once or twice a year, and FEELing like we've made a difference.) As of right now, our old ways of doing things aint workin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Greenmist said "However, we cannot change the fact that clean water is mandatory for living ; if not for the thousands of eco-systems we depend on for foods, but for the water itself to drink." Green.....nope.not us........Me and Char purify our own urine to shower with, and drink it too ! :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 :eek: :cookoo: <laughs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 and people ASSUMEing automatically that my political affiliation MUST be a left wing nut, and the ONLY course of action is to gaslight and organize an electronic dog pile. This is an unfortunate example of why we are continuing to lose 2A rights at a faster rate than before, while still pumping more money into Orgs like the N.R.A. with almost increasingly negative results. Has nothing to do with the reactions you're seeing from members of this message board. No "electronic dogpile" was organized. What you're seeing is people's reactions to your "info" that you like to push. Has nothing to do with clean water. Has nothing to do with alternative energy sources. Has nothing at all to do with 2A rights. It's just you. However, make what ever excuse you need to in order to justify it to yourself. It really is just you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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