@Robocop1051 whats wrong with these guys? wrangler riggs. its rip stop tested and i can try to f that up. Better than heavy carhartt or denim whatever. I've blown out several denim carhartt jeans in trusses over the years. Having full range and no blowout in the crotch, I'll take Riggs. I tried overalls but my junk was bruised in short time.. to much freedom?