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Lower centermass group is the ELF, upper group is the S3G. There's one hit above the S3G base circle - up and slightly left - wind kicked the target over, and I got that guy on the way down... Needless to say, I wasn't walking back out there and setting it up to make another 3 hits. I packed it up... <lmao>

Just came up with another rifle to put this trigger in - the Lightweight 16" 5.56 midlength build I intended on doing (that the short 300BLK interrupted). Will be a perfect rifle for another one of these triggers. <thumbsup>

OK, there won't be any videos until I learn how to use some GoPro Video Editor. At any rate - bottom line up front. The Elftmann Tactical trigger for the AR15, Match - this is a nice trigger. It's not a fast trigger. Okay, to explain that... This is a single stage trigger, and it is DAMN smooth - as far as comparing it to the G S3G trigger, it's easy to be far more accurate with it, over the S3G. My mindset going in was - it's a single stage, and it's a light pull, so it oughta be pretty fast, too... That was my ASSumption. ASS-U-ME... You know how that goes. Well, it is a rapid reset, short reset, very little takeup, and DAMN! Is this thing SMOOTH. I was lazy at the ***classified desert testing location***, and started short, walked back to do far-testing later. I started at 15 yards. I started with the ELF trigger. Loaded up a 20rd mag and proceeded to to 2-1 drills on a centermass IDPA target backer (2 centermass, 1 head). Now, you can shoot this trigger fast - but you can't count on making it go fast. I hope that makes sense. I've got some terrible vid of the target (what I was trying to get) that I'm having a hard time editing down. I tried to drive this trigger hard, and you just can't do it repeatedly. With a 20rd magazine, I should have been able to make six 3-rd cycles and end with a doubletap. I couldn't consistently make this trigger run consistent numbers on the shot timer. So, not a problem, switch rifles. Went to the other one, with the S3G in it. 20rd mag, same thing. Banged out very consistent cycles of 2-1, and the split times on the 2 shots were always 0.12~0.14 seconds, with a quick follow up on the 1 (head) shot. Alright, lesson learned. Moved back to 50 yards - this is the vid I hope I can get to turn out. Since the S3G equipped rifle had a fixed 3x magnifier on it, I ran the other rifle (1~4 power) on the 3x setting. I was shooting from the kneeling position, forward arm supported on my forward knee. It's FAR easier to make accurate shots with the ELF trigger than the S3G. I only fired 10rd mags from this position/distance to try this out, but the ELF shot group was 1/2 the size of the S3G shotgroup. I still have this target, so if the vids don't come out, I'll get the target pic up. I used a separate point of aim for both, so those two groups do not mix on the target. Final summary on the ELF trigger - I like it. Alot. I don't normally drift towards a single stage trigger as an accuracy trigger, but this thing works very, very well in that role. I'd prefer a 2-stage trigger for accuracy, but this really does work. Can you make it run fast? Yes, you can. Can you make it run as fast as a Geissele S3G trigger? I can't. However, is that what it was designed for? I think not. I'm damn glad I bought it, and I will buy another - I just need to figure out what rifle I'll either build or use now, to put it in. It is a damn nice trigger. I can't get over how smooth it is on the trigger pull. The reset is very crisp, and there's very little takeup after the reset. I can't wait to take this thing coyote hunting. <thumbsup> Post away, haters... <lmao>

Been watching this develop. Personal opinion, but I wouldn't count on anything from Leapers/UTG. Again, just my opinion. Spend your money how you want.

Working on this now, and details will take awhile. Vids are uploading SLOW. Received the trigger last night, installed is quickly, and function-checked it. Very nice. One interesting thing about it - it has a "half-cocked" position. It's a single stage trigger, so I figured I'd test it against the closest thing I have, in both pull weight and single stage. It went up against the Geissele Super 3 Gun. Test rifle specs: Top rifle, Trigger is Geissele Super 3 Gun Upper: BCM Mod 3 (Large) charging handle, Rainier Arms Thunderbolt BCG, Rainier Arms Billett Ultramatch upper receiver, Yankee Hill Machine 14.5” barrel (carbine gas) with 1:7” twist, pinned YHM Flash Hider. Daniel Defense Mk18 RIS II rail, MagPul AFG, Surefire E2 Defender light in a VLTOR mount (bolt on). MagPul Gen 2 BUIS, Primary Arms mini red dot on ADM QD mount, Burris AR Tripler in ADM QD flip-to-side mount. Lower: ARFCOM Billet lower receiver (MagPul licensed), MagPul CTR stock, MagPul MIAD grip, H3 buffer, Geissele S3G trigger, Battle Arms ETP set and 45* BADASS safety. Eats from Lancer L5AWM mags. Bottom rifle, trigger is Elftmann Tactical AR15 Match, 2.75~4# adjustable, single stage. Upper: BCM Mod 3 (Large) charging handle, RGuns NiB BCG, AP upper receiver, BCM 14.5” barrel (mid gas) with 1:7” twist, pinned AAC Blackout flash hider. Geissele Mk2 Super Modular Rail (12”), Surefire EL2 light in a VLTOR QD mount, Troy BUIS, Millett DMS-1 1~4 illuminated scope in ADM Scout mount. Lower: AP lower receiver, MagPul STR stock, H2 buffer, Elftmann Tactical AR15 Match trigger (2.75~4#, adjustable), EZ Pull pin set, Battle Arms BADASS dafety. Eats from Lancer L5AWM mags. ***More to follow as I write this up - please hold all comments until I declare it "finished..." Thanks.

It's no secret - Major Robert Rogers adapted what he learned from those Sneaky Injuns!!! :hail:

Aaaaaah, they're BEAUTIFUL!!!

It's in Germany. Tight confines over there. Keeps the locals happy. Keeps troops training.

Time to place the call and get some stuff going, Roger. I'll do a headcount on the needed hardware and give you a ring. <thumbsup> Right off the bat, I'll need 16 EMRs. Better make it 18, so I have a couple spares for the future. LDFA will be the same count. I need to see on the bolt catch/release - I've got the MagPul BAD lever on a couple rifles, that'll stay on those rifles. Since I don't think I can spring for that much all at once, I'll have to cut the numbers down initially... <lmao>

LIke I said earlier - if they were really worried about protecting police, they'd invest in body armor upgrades, invest in new body armor technology, etc. They'd introduce Federal Funding for local/city/county.state LEO armor that somehow wouldn't cost the Common American a single penny. They're not interested in protecting police, not one single bit. They only want to destroy the 2nd Amendment.

BCM large latch latches in all but two AR15s. Jake's is a BCM Ambi medium latch setup, which is sweet. The one remaining is a Colt handle with a Badger Ordnance Tac Latch in it. Unit armorer gave it to me out of my work M4 when I left. He said "it needed to be replaced, anyway..." <lmao> The .308 wears the TacOps charging handle. OP, I'd try this one to start off - get a full handle later. This link is to the whole handle - you can get just the latch and put it in yourself - goes for about $20. https://www.badgerordnance.com/products/tactical-charging-handle-gen-1-latch-new-2/

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Tough time trying to figure out where to post this one. This seemed like the best place...

Those projects make the BEST projects! I see you're aware of it - which I didn't think you were. Since you already are, and this is to "see if it can be done," then it'll be damn fun to find out! I'm in! I know of the benefits of combat and combat pay, too. Hostile Fire Pay, Hazardous Duty Pay, Combat Zone Tax Exclusion, etc. All over it. Got all those, with TDY pay on top of it. <thumbsup>

I don't know - but you have no idea how bad I want one. Just because!... <lmao> Good Lordy, I found more pics!!! :hethan: http://www.guns.com/2013/02/05/the-tank-silencer-4-photos/

Installed, easy as pie. Getting shot tomorrow. It is a single stage trigger, so the closest thing I have to it in pure functionality is the Geissele Super 3 Gun - so that one goes out to the desert, too. Very smooth, very crisp. I like it. <thumbsup>

Working on mine right now, Mike. <thumbsup>

Ooooooohhh.... That's gonna cost ya. <lmao> You got one over on her. She didn't realize EXACTLY what you were talking about when she agreed to it - but she knows now. Later, down the road, you're going to agree to something - and she'll GET YOU!!! <laughs> :banana:

DPMS has them for $0.40 each, and I had 20 of them in the cart. $5.00 shipping. I've just never ordered them because I don't know when they'd show up. The only other place I've ever seen them is from another parts company (not a manufacturer), and they wanted $2.95 each for them. Eff that. I might order the DPMS parts just to see how long it takes to get here.

Roger!!! I miss you, man!!! Still have the same phone number?...

Those were good results - very good. He had an advantage though, according to the article. He had some training in his background.

Shepp, don't worry about mags - I've got whatever you need. Well, unless you are definitely shooting whilst in CO.

Not true at all - To me, the price doesn't matter - as with alot of people. The only thing stopping me is that the noise is a non-issue. Doesn't bother me at all. Plus, I have a habit of not complicating schit with complicated schit. Damn sweet rifle, glad you love it. Glad you appreciate the spring, and it's working for you. For some, it's a lifesaver, for others it doesn't matter. It's not about money, though. Awesome rifle, man. <thumbsup>

Savannah, GA Police Office that shot shitbag felon Charles Smith will NOT be charged. Damn good news. http://bearingarms.com/officer-shot-handcuffed-felon-will-charges-savannah/

And, he doesn't even leave you a link... <lmao>