planeflyer21 Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 What-A-Burger now bans open carry...because it passed in their home state of Texas. http://news.yahoo.com/whataburger-takes-stand-against-texas-open-carry-law-153658659.html Really hard to believe how NIMBY many Texas groups/cities have become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 What-A-Burger now bans open carry...because it passed in their home state of Texas. http://news.yahoo.com/whataburger-takes-stand-against-texas-open-carry-law-153658659.html Really hard to believe how NIMBY many Texas groups/cities have become. Well then My junior whopper with cheese on Thursday will be my last! they used to be really good in the 70's when their buildings were A-frame type sleezy lookin.....F um in the neck! :) wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 They'll still allow concealed carry. The CEO is an "avid hunter with a concealed-carry license." He thinks people will be uncomfortable with patrons "visibly armed." I like these two comments: Outside a Whataburger in San Antonio, Charlie Hair said he would feel safer if the chain allowed customers to openly carry firearms. "I prefer an armed society to an unarmed one," he said as he exited with his 8-year-old son. ^^^ That dude gets it. <thumbsup> But Mary Jones, who was with her 15-year-old grandson, said she was happy that Whataburger took a stand against open carry. "Why do you need to bring a gun into a store where there are kids?" she asked. "We are not in the Wild, Wild West." ^^^ That stupid-ass doesn't get it. :ugone2far: How many examples does she need, in order to understand that... Armed criminals hoping to make a statement almost always target gun-free zones... Why do you need to bring a gun into any location where there are kids? To protect them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Kinda sucks, but as 98 said they still allow concealed carry, which is how I prefer to go, anyway. I like Whataburger, but rarely go there....1 Because I don't live in Texas anymore (Florida's Whataburgers never turned me on) 2. Staying fit after 37 requires more than just a ball busting workout.... I think we will see more and more of this from the Private Businesses in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 What-A-Burger now bans open carry...because it passed in their home state of Texas. http://news.yahoo.com/whataburger-takes-stand-against-texas-open-carry-law-153658659.html Really hard to believe how NIMBY many Texas groups/cities have become. It's all of the Yankees that are moving here. They're ruining it for the regular people. Just like they did in Calfornia starting in the 50's. They flee from the mess they create in one place and move somewhere normal. Then they end up changing it into the hell-hole they left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 ^^^ You nailed it. Well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 It's all of the Yankees that are moving here. They're ruining it for the regular people. Just like they did in Calfornia starting in the 50's. They flee from the mess they create in one place and move somewhere normal. Then they end up changing it into the hell-hole they left. EXACTLY :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 EXACTLY :) Wash Yes siree.... Bob! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I don't thank the word BAN was ever in the letter, I think that he ASKED that their customers not open carry in the Whataburger stores. Asking is one thing and BANNing is another thing in Texas. But if you don't want a Whataburger don't go in and buy one, just go into McDonald's, Burger King, or the Jack in the Box, H@@ters, Hardy's, White Castle, Etc.,Etc. I suppose they welcome open carry of handguns Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 It's all of the Yankees that are moving here. They're ruining it for the regular people. Just like they did in Calfornia starting in the 50's. They flee from the mess they create in one place and move somewhere normal. Then they end up changing it into the hell-hole they left. I think you mean the DemOcommies moving , are ruining it . I've always considered my self an American , no matter where I was born ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 people who are raised in big cities they are like a virus they mess up their own sandbox then move and mess up the next sandbox we have the same chit here people from cali and other big city states move here and then try and make this place like there old place DUH!!!!!!! Example a huge influx of cali folks moved here in the late 90's they bough homes for a fraction of what they cost in cali and were happy till the winter got here and the snow they wanted sidewalks for their kids to walk on and after getting them refused to shovel off the snow so where did the kids walk in the street when asked why they refused to shovel them they said it was to hard and was a job for city workers get the idea? they wanted the cheap houses and clean air and way of life till it was hard work.....! I have nothing against anyone moving here but when you do leave all the BS at the border come and learn how to live the proper way sometimes it is hard , but that is the reward you earn it no one gives it to you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 people who are raised in big cities they are like a virus they mess up their own sandbox then move and mess up the next sandbox we have the same chit here people from cali and other big city states move here and then try and make this place like there old place DUH!!!!!!! Example a huge influx of cali folks moved here in the late 90's they bough homes for a fraction of what they cost in cali and were happy till the winter got here and the snow they wanted sidewalks for their kids to walk on and after getting them refused to shovel off the snow so where did the kids walk in the street when asked why they refused to shovel them they said it was to hard and was a job for city workers get the idea? they wanted the cheap houses and clean air and way of life till it was hard work.....! I have nothing against anyone moving here but when you do leave all the BS at the border come and learn how to live the proper way sometimes it is hard , but that is the reward you earn it no one gives it to you.... Perfectly said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXshooter Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 What-a-Burger will not be the only one. Whether we like it or not, open carry of firearms is going to make A LOT of people nervous and companies are going to respond to that. Personally, I prefer to remain concealed. If somebody walks in with murder on their mind, the guy with the pistol showing on his hip is going to be the first target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) What-a-Burger will not be the only one. Whether we like it or not, open carry of firearms is going to make A LOT of people nervous and companies are going to respond to that. Personally, I prefer to remain concealed. If somebody walks in with murder on their mind, the guy with the pistol showing on his hip is going to be the first target. This is how I feel too you eliminate your elimate of surprise. Also no matter how much you educate the masses someone's going to be upset by it. All in all these people have business to do money to make and sadly there are more uneducated scared sheep than the opposite. And like stated they're not anti gun Edited July 13, 2015 by shepp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngrBob Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think you mean the DemOcommies moving , are ruining it . I've always considered my self an American , no matter where I was born ! <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think you mean the DemOcommies moving , are ruining it . I've always considered my self an American , no matter where I was born ! Of course there are good and bad people from all states. They are frequently the ones left behind to pick up the pieces after the virus source has left. Unfortunately, they have infected much of the weak-minded people who have never contributed but think they are owed a living. people who are raised in big cities they are like a virus they mess up their own sandbox then move and mess up the next sandbox we have the same chit here people from cali and other big city states move here and then try and make this place like there old place DUH!!!!!!! Example a huge influx of cali folks moved here in the late 90's they bough homes for a fraction of what they cost in cali and were happy till the winter got here and the snow they wanted sidewalks for their kids to walk on and after getting them refused to shovel off the snow so where did the kids walk in the street when asked why they refused to shovel them they said it was to hard and was a job for city workers get the idea? they wanted the cheap houses and clean air and way of life till it was hard work.....! I have nothing against anyone moving here but when you do leave all the BS at the border come and learn how to live the proper way sometimes it is hard , but that is the reward you earn it no one gives it to you.... Very true Magwa. I tried, but I can't add anything to what you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Guess I don't get my gravy fries on wednesday:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Whether you agree with open carry or not, why is What-A-Burger making this decision now? They have had locations in Arizona since I was a kid, well over 40 years now, and Arizona has always had open carry. Same with many states where they have had locations for decades. The answer is they are bowing to the PC kowtowing, perpetrated by NIMBY bullies, due to fear of losing a few customers who are scared of cars without airbags and 5-gallon buckets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 If somebody walks in with murder on their mind, the guy with the pistol showing on his hip is going to be the first target. So what will happen when everyone has a pistol on their side? I'm betting it would be a more polite society.........minus a few idiots. In today's environment I can understand wanting to stay concealed and that is fine with me. For myself, I'd like to take my chances, Molon Labe.....................if you think you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I don't have NRA or any political or liberal kinds of decals or bumper stickers on my cars. I also do concealed carry of firearms sharp knives. I like stealth rather than showing off how macho I am.However, I consider myself as being too old,slow on my feet and hate pain too much to take a beating from a young punk. I rry to be aware of the surrounding area and well armed,well trained and practice away from show off shooters. Open carry should be a right but so is concealed carry ( IMHO ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Because there is always someone better, faster and more accurate, I love having the element of surprise on my team. Speed and violence of action matter less when you are dealing with bullet holes in you because someone got the jump on you. Edited July 14, 2015 by StainTrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) For myself, I'd like to take my chances, Molon Labe.....................if you think you can. Yep, bring it. I open carry alot, I conceal alot. The circumstances determine which, as with the legalities. I'm armed, all the time, even in my house. If someone sees me as a target, because I've got a visible firearm, then come and get it from me. If you take take it, you can have it - it's yours. I know for a fact I can get two or three of you, without breaking a sweat. If you make me work for it, then you can have it. Bring a crowd, though. Brace yourself. I like stealth rather than showing off how macho I am. That's not what open carry is about, at all. It's not "macho," in the least. It's about the education of the sheeple. They need to see it, to know it's legal, nd they need to see it and see you do NO HARM, in order to understand that it's not "bad." What the sheeple really need to see is the not-often occurance where someone armed legally, which isn't the routine, defeats someone armed, with ill intentions, and meaning to kill innocent people. Since it doesn't happen often, not many sheeple are "changed." The ones that were in a situation like that - with a legal armed civilian response - get it. From there on out, they get it. If everyone were openly armed, all the time, you'd see a PLUMMET in crime. Edited July 14, 2015 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 If everyone were openly armed, all the time, you'd see a PLUMMET in crime. Or a thinning of the gene pool. Either way society is sure to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I know I've posted this before, but it's worth posting again. “The Gun Is Civilization” by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret) Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it. In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some. When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender. There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a armed mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat–it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly. Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable. When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation… and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act. By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.) So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yep, bring it. I open carry alot, I conceal alot. The circumstances determine which, as with the legalities. I'm armed, all the time, even in my house. If someone sees me as a target, because I've got a visible firearm, then come and get it from me. If you take take it, you can have it - it's yours. I know for a fact I can get two or three of you, without breaking a sweat. If you make me work for it, then you can have it. Bring a crowd, though. Brace yourself. I'd like to add onto this part - a handgun isn't an "offensive" weapon. It's purely defensive, and only temporary, or secondary. It should never, ever be a "primary" weapon. Legalities aside, you should never be without a rifle. You can't carry a rifle everywhere you go, but you should carry a secondary weapon everywhere you go - a pistol. The only reason to have a pistol, is so you can fight your way to a rifle... Once you do that, they better have a bigger crowd... train, train, train. Every minute you're not training, you're losing proficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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