GRA Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Outstanding narrative from an obvious genius. I wish there was somewhere us older vets / retired LEO(s) could get some military combat arms training (at least that is what the USAF calls it). Not only would it be fun but certainly in the future there are times it may be needed. Police / LEO training is good but most of that is stuck on the 25 & 100 yard distances. Shoot and move is covered but I don't think it's like the armed forces provide in infantry training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugger43 Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 1 hour ago, blue109 said: Pretty good read right here. https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com/2016/07/10/skull-stomping-sacred-cows-sun-tzu-on-dallas-cowardice-and-training/ Good read but some obvious errors. His term "disingenuous propagandizing" regarding police helping civilians is certainly wrong. First, cops likely didn't all know he was only targeting police, plus realized that many bullets flying around were dangerous to everyone. Second, the lady who was shot tells of one officer shot trying to protect her, and another cop who jumped on top of her to shield her from further gunfire. Third, tons of video evidence of police standing up and herding people away from danger. Nevertheless, some good advice there, and interesting assumptions and opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) So now I hear FOX calling the scumbag a" military trained expert at combat"?????? If they ever run up against someone with with serious training what will they do, wet their pants? Then I hear O'bummer say it is easier for some kids to get their hands on a Glock than a computer........ We are in big trouble when propaganda like this is allowed on the airways. Edited July 13, 2016 by jtallen83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 2 hours ago, jtallen83 said: So now I hear FOX calling the scumbag a" military trained expert at combat"?????? Sadly, that is how the majority of society sees anyone who has any sort of military service, as weapons experts trained in the sciences of stopping human heartbeats. Students completing our CCW course (ours, not what AZ "requires") shoot better, have more firearms knowledge, and better skills, that the average POST certified cop trained on one handgun type. 2 hours ago, jtallen83 said: If they ever run up against someone with with serious training what will they do, wet their pants? "Trained", serious or not. But I understand what you are saying. I've seen it said multiple times in comments on articles by people trying to make a point about "assault weapons", that they could create more carnage with a revolver and a shotgun. And a person who had been properly trained could. Any one of the people who now do the realistic "competitions" would be a handful to overcome for any non-urban SWAT-light/lacking police force. Just as when N. Korea sends in those sapper crews to S. Korea to test defenses and raise havoc, the adversary would need to be overcome by dogged persistence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) The Author makes some sound observations . Edited July 14, 2016 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 8 hours ago, jtallen83 said: Then I hear O'bummer say it is easier for some kids to get their hands on a Glock than a computer........ I'm in my late 50's, and am having a hell of a time purchasing a Glock 17 Gen 3 in CA. Per Ob maybe I should find a kid to do the deal with to have a better chance to close a sale. I've got a few spare computers to barter with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Just based on size factor alone I agree. My son could hold a Glock waaaay easier than our computer. True statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 3 hours ago, MikeD said: I'm in my late 50's, and am having a hell of a time purchasing a Glock 17 Gen 3 in CA. Per Ob maybe I should find a kid to do the deal with to have a better chance to close a sale. I've got a few spare computers to barter with... You don't want one from a street kid , they all shoot sideways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRA Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, survivalshop said: You don't want one from a street kid , they all shoot sideways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 1 hour ago, survivalshop said: You don't want one from a street kid , they all shoot sideways Just buy the Homeboy nytes sytes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 1 hour ago, MikedaddyH said: Just buy the Homeboy nytes sytes. get some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugger43 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 2 hours ago, MikedaddyH said: Just buy the Homeboy nytes sytes. Wulllll....wulll, whut iffen a dude is like, you know, left-handed or sumthin like that there???? Sites wood be upside down, woodent they?? And do he hafta move his hat bill thingee over to the other side, or whut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 9 hours ago, MikeD said: I'm in my late 50's, and am having a hell of a time purchasing a Glock 17 Gen 3 in CA. Per Ob maybe I should find a kid to do the deal with to have a better chance to close a sale. I've got a few spare computers to barter with... 9 hours ago, MikeD said: I'm in my late 50's, and am having a hell of a time purchasing a Glock 17 Gen 3 in CA. Per Ob maybe I should find a kid to do the deal with to have a better chance to close a sale. I've got a few spare computers to barter with... Sorry MikeD, but computers are out, gotta have an Iphone. Galaxy or somethine with Pokemon running on it! You have to have a hand on the phone, and the other hand on the Glock or Taurus. They don't even have anythine to hold up the P.J bottoms except for the boxers. Bio of Dallas Cop shooter from AP article: By WILL WEISSERT, REESE DUNKLIN and MITCH WEISS, Associated Press Dallas sniper was loner; Army sent him home from Afghanistan MESQUITE, Texas (AP) — The Dallas sniper had been sent home from Afghanistan after being accused of sexually harassing a female, and was described as a loner who followed black militant groups on social media. Micah Xavier Johnson, who fatally shot five officers and wounded seven more before police killed him with a remote-controlled bomb on Friday, lived with family members in the blue-collar suburb of Mesquite, where he played basketball for hours at a time. Friends there said the 25-year-old black man didn't seem interested in politics, but his Facebook page suggests otherwise: He "liked" black militant groups including the African American Defense League and the New Black Panther Party, which was founded in Dallas. His photo showed him wearing a dashiki and raising his fist over the words "Black Power," and his cover shot carried the red, black and green Pan-African flag. For six years starting in 2009, Johnson served in the Army Reserve as a private first class with a specialty in carpentry and masonry, the military said. In May 2014, six months into his Afghanistan tour, he was accused of sexual harassment by a female soldier. The Army sent him stateside, recommending an "other than honorable discharge," said Bradford Glendening, the military lawyer who represented him. That recommendation was "highly unusual," Bradford said, since counseling is usually ordered before more drastic steps are taken. "In his case, it was apparently so egregious, it was not just the act itself," Glendening told The Associated Press. "I'm sure that this guy was the black sheep of his unit." According to a court filing Glendening read over the phone Friday, the victim said she wanted Johnson to "receive mental help," while also seeking a protective order to keep him away from her and her family, wherever they went. Johnson was ordered to avoid all contact with her. Glendening said Johnson was set to be removed from the Army in September 2014 because of the incident, but instead got an honorable discharge months later — for reasons he can't understand. "Someone really screwed up," he said. "But to my client's benefit." When authorities searched Johnson's home Friday they found bomb-making materials, ballistic vests, rifles, ammunition, and a personal journal of combat tactics. Dallas Police Chief David O. Brown said Johnson told negotiators before he was killed that he was acting alone and was unaffiliated with any group. The chief said Johnson cited the fatal shootings of black men by police officers in Louisiana and Minnesota, which prompted the protest march in Dallas and many other cities. "The suspect said he was upset with white people and wanted to kill white people, especially white officers," Brown said. Activists with Black Lives Matter, whose peaceful march police were guarding as he opened fire, repudiated the shootings, and it wasn't immediately clear if Johnson had any connection to the movement, which has disavowed violence. But one of the groups Johnson "liked" on Facebook, the African American Defense League, posted a message earlier in the week encouraging violence against police in response to the killing in Louisiana. "The Pig has shot and killed Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, Louisiana! You and I know what we must do and I don't mean marching, making a lot of noise, or attending conventions. We must 'Rally The Troops!' It is time to visit Louisiana and hold a barbeque." The message was attributed to Dr. Mauricelm-Lei Millere, a leader in the organization. Another group Johnson "liked" was the New Black Panther Party, whose leaders have "long expressed virulently anti-white and anti-Semitic opinions," according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Johnson also "liked" the Nation of Islam and the Black Riders Liberation Party, which the center described as "hate groups." Among Johnson's other social media likes were groups that focus on the history and accomplishments of African-Americans, such as Black Love Matters, the Nubian Rootz Cultural Center, and I Love Black Archaeologist, a web series whose main character uses a time machine to visit famous black people. The Dallas Police Department said Johnson's Facebook account also included information about Richard Griffin, also known as Professor Griff, who "embraces a radical form of Afrocentrism." On his Facebook page Friday afternoon, Griffin, a member of Public Enemy — an influential hip hop group known for its politically charged lyrics — said he does "not advocate killing Cops." Johnson had no criminal history, according to authorities. Local court records show his parents were divorced in 1996. He was believed to have shared a two-story tan brick home in Mesquite with family members. He graduated from JohnHornHigh School in Mesquite, where he was a ROTC member, school district officials said. Sharon Carter, who works in the district's registrar's office and lives near Johnson's home, said she saw him occasionally wearing military fatigues as he left for Army reservist training, but never saw him armed. "They say he was standoffish in high school," Carter said. "I never really spoke to him. He kept to himself." A relative had praised Johnson on his birthday in 2014 as "definitely Army strong" on his Facebook page, calling him an "entertaining, loving, understanding, not to mention handsome friend, brother (and) son." After Johnson was killed, a relative posted on her Facebook page, "I keep saying its not true...my eyes hurt from crying. Y him??? And why was he downtown." She did not respond to Facebook messages. Friend Israel Cooper said Johnson went by "Xavier,' his middle name, had a "cool vibe," wasn't really political and seemed educated. Cooper said he and Johnson played basketball at a park near his home. "He would be out there for eight hours. Like it was his job. Just hoopin'," he said. Cooper said that when he heard the suspect was Johnson, he "was in disbelief because he's just not like a violent or rough dude." "So I was, 'Nah, it's probably another Xavier somewhere, you know,'" Cooper said. "But then, with pictures on the internet and stuff, I'm like 'OK.' " Cooper added: "It's the quiet ones that just do the most devastating stuff. You never see it coming. But then it's more expected, like 'I should have known.'" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Hang on to your hats tomorrow, chances seem very high for things to get much worse: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/warning-day-rage-blacklivesmatter-protests-set-friday-37-us-cities/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRA Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Interesting the only place in Texas indicated is Austin. I bet that doesn't stay that way though. I guess I'll be driving my wife to work and back tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Hooray! My town is on the list. Always love an excuse to upgrade to rifle carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, blue109 said: Hooray! My town is on the list. Always love an excuse to upgrade to rifle carry. Let's hope you don't have to be in a situation that forces a decision to use it or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Crap....we didn't make the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Our RAGE will just be 150 dreadlock hippies and white UofA students anyway. As I said, always enjoy an excuse. Good to keep in practice anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 The one in Milwaukee is in the middle of the hood they'll probably match to 94 again like last time. Glad I got tomorrow off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 4 hours ago, DNP said: Crap....we didn't make the list. Racists! 4 hours ago, blue109 said: Hooray! My town is on the list. Always love an excuse to upgrade to rifle carry. TPD and UPD rarely have good outcomes when they pair together for crowd control, be it the 4th Ave NCAA BB "riots" or the University Blvd incidents. They instigate each other into bad decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 snopes now saying that there is no evidence of tomorrows "days of rage" protests happening: http://www.snopes.com/2016/07/11/anonymous-day-of-rage-protests-2016/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Sad panda. I'm going to make it a "bring your rifle to work" day anyway lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 ^+1 truck gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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