The Pre-2nd Amendment File

[planeflyer21]

Since anti-gunners love to say "The founding fathers meant 'muskets' when they said 'arms and had no idea about repeating firearms," this is the place to put all the pre-1792 repeating firearms/weapons.

Use this for your resource.  Post on facebook or whatever else you post onto.

 

Edited August 26, 2016 by planeflyer21

[planeflyer21]

A pair of Lorenzoni-style repeating flintlocks. Invented in the 1650s, this pair was comissioned around the 1750s.

 

 

[planeflyer21]

The Girandoni air rifle, equipped by the Austrian army in 1790, this 22-shot .46 caliber bad boy would blast through a 1" pine board at 100 yards.

 

[mrmackc]

Good work Planeflyer!

[unforgiven]

Very cool links brother.

[planeflyer21]

Thanks brothers!

If anyone has other pre-2nd Amendment repeaters, put them in here! 

[planeflyer21]

Here's a bit on the Cookson repeater, a rifle version of the Lorenzoni system:

http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O77720/flint-lock-magazine-cookson-john/

 

[beantown]

Nice thread planeflyer.

[sketch]

Thanks plane good idea!! Ill put it to use tomorrow?

[planeflyer21]

Alright, this is post-2nd Amendment but the Collier repeating flintlock was a primary inspiration for Colt's first revolvers:

 

 

[planeflyer21]

/\/\/\/\ And as cool as that is, this flintlock repeater (8-round) predates the 2nd Amendment by almost 200 years!!

 

[planeflyer21]

The Puckle gun.  Invented circa 1717 and marketed specifically for "Ottoman pirates", e.g., mooselimbs:

 

[jtallen83]

I love it, square bullets for mooselimbs

[blue109]

A: that gun is frickin awesome.

 

B: we have a new obscure term for killing muzzies that lefties will never understand. "Looks like we could use some square bullets, boys"

[planeflyer21]

1 hour ago, blue109 said:

A: that gun is frickin awesome.

 

B: we have a new obscure term for killing muzzies that lefties will never understand. "Looks like we could use some square bullets, boys"

"What did you do today?"

"We went out tossing some squares."

[shepp]

3 minutes ago, planeflyer21 said:

"What did you do today?"

"We went out tossing some squares."

The hippies would think you were on acid

[beantown]

4 hours ago, shepp said:

The hippies would think you were on acid

I wasn't a hippy, but I was known to toss a few squares back in the day. Ohh look, tracers!

[planeflyer21]

Not a pre-Constitution firearm but an interesting argument for identifying the Henry rifle as the first "sturmgewehr."

 

[SNKEBIT]

Nice!!!

[MikedaddyH]

16 to 1 advantage makes a difference.

[planeflyer21]

1 hour ago, MikedaddyH said:

16 to 1 advantage makes a difference.

Yeah it does.  I've handled the Italian replicas of the old iron and brass Henry.

Slide the magazine follower up to the muzzle end to full compression, twist about 90° (IIRC), then drop the rounds in until the magazine is full.  Twist the end back over and the follower snaps in behind that last round.

An enterprising soldier with a tube could have reloaded that magazine uber fast.

[1PETER216]

Not pre 2 Amendment repeating firearm but I have told many anti's that prior to and during the American Revolution that our Navy were cannon equipt privateers and merchant ships.

Cannons owned by private citizens.  

[jtallen83]

3 hours ago, 1PETER216 said:

Cannons owned by private citizens.  

^THAT is what the second is for! LIBERTY FIRST!

[1PETER216]

Absolutely that. Plus it's just neat to blow things up

 

[beantown]

I'm still in awe of this air rifle. The engineering, 1790 mind you, blows my mind. 1790!!! Great video planeflyer.

On 8/26/2016 at 11:00 AM, planeflyer21 said:

The Girandoni air rifle, equipped by the Austrian army in 1790, this 22-shot .46 caliber bad boy would blast through a 1" pine board at 100 yards.