98Z5V Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 We, collectively, have been down this road before, especially on the 16" 300BLK barrels. This article sums it up nicely, and it's a very worthy read. junk link - micromoa dot com, then 300-blk-port-size-testing <edited here to drop this link, site has been compromised> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 I know that I've remembered, for some reason, that we had to be around "100" on the 16" carbine-gas configs - 0.100" gas port diameter. I know I'm not completely crazy now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Used 0.103" and 0.106" in a 16" barrel . Just to get it to cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 ^^^ Again, 300BLK, 16" barrel, carbine-gas... we need to be around a hundred on the port size. 90 from some manufacturers just won't cut it. We need this pinned in this section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNKEBIT Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) I better check mine! After I get it all together. Edited January 4, 2017 by SNKEBIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 hours ago, 98Z5V said: ^^^ Again, 300BLK, 16" barrel, carbine-gas... we need to be around a hundred on the port size. 90 from some manufacturers just won't cut it. We need this pinned in this section. Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Sweet, brother! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/4/2017 at 2:57 PM, 98Z5V said: We, collectively, have been down this road before, especially on the 16" 300BLK barrels. This article sums it up nicely, and it's a very worthy read. junk link - micromoa dot com, then 300-blk-port-size-testing I posted that link in the "Start Tweaking or what" thread in this section & its a good article to be pined . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I agree, ended up right where they said on my port! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve L Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 On 1/4/2017 at 2:57 PM, 98Z5V said: We, collectively, have been down this road before, especially on the 16" 300BLK barrels. This article sums it up nicely, and it's a very worthy read. junk link - micromoa dot com, then 300-blk-port-size-testing Does this info exist elsewhere? This link is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted September 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Looks like it's gone. I shoulda saved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve L Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Bummer. My 300 BO barrel has a port size of 0.097". I don't want to start drilling unless I really have to. It perfectly feeds the supers but I'm trying to get 150 gr FMJ subs to work. It doesn't like the 150 FMJ-BT. I can only barely move the bolt. I know the 'why' question will pop up. The 150 FMJ-BT allows me to shoot more since they are more affordable and it seems to be a very challenging load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 12 hours ago, Steve L said: Bummer. My 300 BO barrel has a port size of 0.097". I don't want to start drilling unless I really have to. It perfectly feeds the supers but I'm trying to get 150 gr FMJ subs to work. It doesn't like the 150 FMJ-BT. I can only barely move the bolt. I know the 'why' question will pop up. The 150 FMJ-BT allows me to shoot more since they are more affordable and it seems to be a very challenging load. Check this Thread out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 On 9/6/2017 at 4:04 PM, Steve L said: Bummer. My 300 BO barrel has a port size of 0.097". I don't want to start drilling unless I really have to. It perfectly feeds the supers but I'm trying to get 150 gr FMJ subs to work. It doesn't like the 150 FMJ-BT. I can only barely move the bolt. I know the 'why' question will pop up. The 150 FMJ-BT allows me to shoot more since they are more affordable and it seems to be a very challenging load. I only load Hornady 150gr FMJBTs for this caliber, and they're going between 1800~1900 fps. They're far from subsonic. I don't know how far down you'd have to load to get those projos under 1100 fps, but that would have to be a pretty low charge. I'd look at the load your making before I'd try to make that load work by drilling your gas port. a 150 grain projectile is not the ideal item to try to make subsonic in this caliber. Go for a 200~220gr projectile, if subsonic is your thing. You'll have ALOT better luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve L Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 It is not too difficult to get the 150 gr FMJBT to fire subsonic. The challenge is generating enough gas pressure to completely cycle the action. Last monday I shot a few of my subs using Trail Boss to test for basic functionality. The load is well known to be subsonic and it is also well known to not cycle an AR. I did not chrono it so I cannot confirm it was truly subsonic but the recoil was greatly reduced and it sounded much quieter than then my supers (my perception/no suppressors with ear pro). My calculations on felt recoil show my supers (1620 fps) at 5.6 ft lbs and my subs (if under 1100 fps) should have a felt recoil of 2.0 ft lbs. Now the fun part is getting the subs to cycle. Likely looking at some new powders before I start drilling out gas ports and playing with buffers/spring rates. I have a few ideas! [Insert Dr Evil laugh here] As you can see, like most of us here, I know getting 150 subs is a bit of a challenge which is what motivates me! The heavy subs have been proven to work well and is my fallback position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve L Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 On 9/7/2017 at 6:14 AM, survivalshop said: Check this Thread out I have an 8" 300 AAC barrel with a gas port of 0.097". Unfortunately, I received the barrel cheap and the previous owner did not know who the manufacturer is. I figured if it sucked then I'll buy a new one. It shoots very well so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Here's the data from the MicroMOA site, which is down now: (BIG KUDOS to @survivalshop for grabbing this info before it went down!!! ) AR-15 Platform 300 BLK Conversion Subsonic Ammo 16" car 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.12 16" car 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.125 16" car 300 BLK SUPRESSED 0.106 16" car 300 BLK SUPRESSED 0.11 16" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.067 16" pistol 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.086 9.5" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.093 9.5" pistol 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.093 8.1" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.104 8.1" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.12 8.1" pistol 300 BLK SUPRESSED 0.086 8.1" pistol 300 BLK SUPRESSED 0.093 AR-15 Platform 300 BLK Conversion Supersonic Ammo 16" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.0625 16" pistol 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.059 16" car 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.099 16" car 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.093 9.5" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.073 9.5" pistol 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.067 8.1" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.076 8.1" pistol 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.067 The 300 Blackout data has been compiled from Micro MOA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) @Gopher this is the graphic I talked to you about, on the barrel length versus gas system, depending if you want to run subsonic, supersonic, or both. FOr the hogs your after, I wouldn't even worry about the subsonic stuff, unless you're running a suppressor in the future, brother. Down the road, if you do that, just change out to an adjustable gas block... In a nutshell, 16" with a Carbine Gas System does it all, unless ALL you do is subsonic shooting, without the suppressor on... Edited July 21, 2018 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Thnks 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhouse Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 That link had been compromised and was taking you to a malware site. It's been cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted November 30 Author Report Share Posted November 30 16 hours ago, Madhouse said: That link had been compromised and was taking you to a malware site. It's been cut. That sucks, but understandable, and thanks for finding that out, and crushing it. The link had been down for awhile, but I'd saved the data 6 years ago. Here's the data from it, and it's still in this thread, above... On 7/20/2018 at 7:11 PM, 98Z5V said: Here's the data from the MicroMOA site, which is down now: (BIG KUDOS to @survivalshop for grabbing this info before it went down!!! ) AR-15 Platform 300 BLK Conversion Subsonic Ammo 16" car 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.12 16" car 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.125 16" car 300 BLK SUPRESSED 0.106 16" car 300 BLK SUPRESSED 0.11 16" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.067 16" pistol 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.086 9.5" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.093 9.5" pistol 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.093 8.1" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.104 8.1" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.12 8.1" pistol 300 BLK SUPRESSED 0.086 8.1" pistol 300 BLK SUPRESSED 0.093 AR-15 Platform 300 BLK Conversion Supersonic Ammo 16" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.0625 16" pistol 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.059 16" car 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.099 16" car 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.093 9.5" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.073 9.5" pistol 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.067 8.1" pistol 300 BLK UNSUPRESSED 0.076 8.1" pistol 300 BLK SUPPRESSED 0.067 The 300 Blackout data has been compiled from Micro MOA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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