planeflyer21 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 After 8 years of people being fired for expressing opinions against the socialist agenda, people are now being terminated for their hyperbolic hateful rhetoric: http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/hillary-aide-in-hot-water-for-swipe-at-widow-of-fallen-seal/ There have been another couple like this. They are so used to being able to slander and libel the Hated 5 (christians, constitutionalists, heterosexuals, patriots, and Veterans) that we will hopefully see more consequences for assinine behavior like this. Feel free to post on this same thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Not really a supporter of people getting fired for what they say or do off the clock. I understand if a doctor or a cop says they won't help certain people, if a teacher says they will only teach a certain ideology, if a cook says he will spit in people's food etc, but just being a dick has nothing to do with your job performance. Edited March 2, 2017 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Fired for cause. He made the company look bad ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) He made himself look bad. People had to dig into his personal life to find out where he worked. If he did it from a company account or was sitting at his desk in his profile picture than burn him. He didn't. It's punishment for using your 1st amendment. Edited March 2, 2017 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Perhaps the company's hands were tied after they started getting hate mail. The issue is with the petty MFers trying to destroy someone because they don't like your opinion. It's dangerous for everyone. I hope he gets rich with an unlawful termination lawsuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, blue109 said: He made himself look bad. People had to dig into his personal life to find out where he worked. If he did it from a company account or was sitting at his desk in his profile picture that burn him. He didn't. It's punishment for using your 1st amendment. Not that it is right but "they" set the precedent for this. Multiple precedents. If nothing else, perhaps it will get people to temper their opinions with tact. 2 minutes ago, blue109 said: Perhaps the company's hands were tied after they started getting hate mail. The issue is with the petty MFers trying to destroy someone because they don't like your opinion. It's dangerous for everyone. I hope he gets rich with an unlawful termination lawsuit. That's also in the face of the 1st Amendment. As adults we have the right to conduct actions and also to suffer consequences for actions. If one of your employees called your wife a stupid notevengoingtotypeit, do you have the right to fire them for expressing their opinion? Should they get rich because they have a low opinion of your wife? Or daughter? Or Veterans? Or America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 40 minutes ago, blue109 said: Not really a supporter of people getting fired for what they say or do off the clock. I understand if a doctor or a cop says they won't help certain people, if a teacher says they will only teach a certain ideology, if a cook says he will spit in people's food etc, but just being a dick has nothing to do with your job performance. 11 minutes ago, blue109 said: He made himself look bad. People had to dig into his personal life to find out where he worked. If he did it from a company account or was sitting at his desk in his profile picture than burn him. He didn't. It's punishment for using your 1st amendment. I agree although the guy is a bag of shit for saying it, he in no way involved his employer. If that were the case I know lots of people who should be fired for that. the sports guy I listen to always makes the comment "what does the Internet not do? Yea that's right FORGET! You can delete that shit all you want, but the instand you click post, the Internet will never forget." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) He didn't work for her. Nor did he really call her an idiot. He's basically getting the trump treatment. You can say good because they have been doing it to us, but if you say that, you are saying it's okay they were doing it to us. It's either OK to ruin people for political opinions, or it's not. You can't pick what opinions matter. He didn't say anything that caused harm to anybody or make threats. I say much worse things on a regular basis. Edited March 2, 2017 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 /\/\/\/\ I agree with all of that. "They" still set a precedent. The left set one for demanding terminations for people's speech away from work. The right set one for following through on those demands. The other side of the coin is that working at a given job is not an entitlement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Our first Amendment rights have been under attack for many years , there should be nothing you can say that you can get arrested or prosecuted for , period , but we have no idea what kind of Policy that Company has or what his individual job rules for causing the company harm , be it personal or public , so he could have violated his company policy & got canned . He still has his first amendment right , it doesn't give you the right to keep your job because you broke some clause in you company policy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Corporations can basically fire for whatever they want unless there is an employment contract. I have been in corporations who have fired both conservatives and liberals for espousing opinions contrary to what the company wanted them to say. They undermine free speech for both sides of the aisle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 According to John Adams, the 1st Amendment isn't even in play. "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Kind of like the idea that anyone that crosses one of our borders is automatically entitled to constitutional representation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 14 minutes ago, planeflyer21 said: According to John Adams, the 1st Amendment isn't even in play. "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Kind of like the idea that anyone that crosses one of our borders is automatically entitled to constitutional representation. good quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 SS nailed it. That woman lost her husband very recently. He died defending our freedom. Political photo op or not, is it really worth throwing that in her face and taking away a meaningful moment to her in what will likely be the hardest time of her life? Plane's comment about saying it with a little more tact is also a good one. His company doesn't agree with his view or at least the phrasing of it and it has since brought negative light upon them. Sure, we can blame the folks who took the time to dig up where he works...but he's still the one who made the shitty comment. And not in a bar, or at the dinner table behind her back. He made it to the world and essentially to her in open view. He can live with the consequences of his action. Have a little respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Also reason number 342 I'm happy I work for a small company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Sticks and stones. People have become pussies across the board. It's bipartisan and symptomatic of everything going downhill. If someone says mean things ignore them. Don't make them famous. Obscurity makes a more positive impact than bad press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 On 3/2/2017 at 5:45 AM, blue109 said: It's punishment for using your 1st amendment. being an a$shole and slandering/insulting the wife of a recently fallen hero, publicly, to the world, all for the reason of drawing attention to yourself and trying to be a hero to your liberal acquaintances... Had to fix that for ya. LIberal shiit-talker got what he deserved. Militarily, they used to call punishment for this... "The Consequences of Your Actions..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 minute ago, 98Z5V said: Had to fix that for ya. LIberal shiit-talker got what he deserved. Militarily, they used to call punishment for this... "The Consequences of Your Actions..." No one ever thinks about that, just do what feels good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Shoe will be on the other foot in 4-8. Always is. Always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Not for those kind of comments, brother, that this specific asshead muttered - those are never appropriate, despite political party or affiliation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 The search function sucks in here so I can't post quotes...But I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one in this forum who basically made the exact same comment about khizr Khan standing up there supporting killy and president zero... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, blue109 said: The search function sucks in here so I can't post quotes...But I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one in this forum who basically made the exact same comment about khizr Khan standing up there supporting killy and president zero... The Politics section is private, doesn't get crawled by search robots, only members. I don't think that's exactly the same as indefensible comments made to the whole world on Facebook. Freedom and responsibility go hand in hand. He has every right to say what he said, and he has to bear responsibility for the outcome too. Killy lost the election for all her efforts, again, consequences for being a lowlife POS trying to cash in on the death of a fallen soldier. Going after the politicians is cool with me, going after the families of the fallen is not, that's the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 5 hours ago, blue109 said: The search function sucks in here so I can't post quotes...But I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one in this forum who basically made the exact same comment about khizr Khan standing up there supporting killy and president zero... Same comment? Mrs. Ryan sat present accepting accolades for her husband. Mr. Khan cited his son's death as a reason to forego barring entry into the United States from international terror farms, while simultaneously insinuating that a true American Patriot could only support open-border no-questions-asked Hitlery, and to do otherwise meant you are a racist unamerican mooselimbaphobe. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/us/elections/khizr-humayun-khan-speech.html?_r=0 So criticizing a man (who later was proven to be linked to MB: http://shoebat.com/2016/07/31/what-the-media-is-not-telling-you-about-the-muslim-who-attacked-donald-trump-he-is-a-muslim-brotherhood-agent-who-wants-to-advance-sharia-law-and-bring-muslims-into-the-united-states/ ) who seems to be aiding and abedding a person who wants to destroy the USA for her own advancement and gain Vs “Sorry, Owens’ wife,” tweeted Grilo, “you’re not helping yourself or your husband’s memory by standing there and clapping like an idiot. Trump just used you.” I'll concede. Same sort of commentary. Still seems to be a different application IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 And the fact the Kubli Khan was paid for his speech or what ever you want call it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beantown Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 The Kahn's are true pieces of sh!t to the highest order. Mooslimb POS! I'd never agree with a comment like Grilos. Yeah he has the right to say it, I damn sure don't have to agree with it. His employment agreement caught up with him. No first amendment issues what so ever. Plain fact, social media comments, are in just about every employment agreement in our country now days. If they don't like what you post, you signed a binding contract giving them the right for termination, for just about ANYTHING you post on line. Buh buy Grilo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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