survivalshop Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Now if they only let the M1's in from South Korea . http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/24/trump-permit-citizens-buy-military-surplus-1911-pistols/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 On the CMP website, they have a notice dated 11/22/17 that due to the high demand and limited number, they have not decided yet how the 1911's will be sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Honestly, I don't think these surplus 1911s will be any deal at all. Initial prices have been discussed to be about $1100-$1500 for a tired, worn out 1911. We will see what actually comes out, but I'm not holding my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Just talked to the State director of CMP. He thought quite a bit less. I will have my paperwork done and.ready to be.sent when it happens, just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Collectors will want to eat all of these Pistols up . They have a History & are worth more . I will try for one , as long as the price is respectable . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Ive had the honor and privilage of holding and shooting a veietnam authentic 1911.. price would not hold me back from owning such a trophy. The real priceless part was to be able to shoot it with the man that carried it in battle! and they will shoot all day long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 If the price is right, then yes, I'll consider it. But... I already have one manufactured in 1918. Don't really need to spend the money for another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, mineralman55 said: If the price is right, then yes, I'll consider it. But... I already have one manufactured in 1918. Don't really need to spend the money for another one. thats awesom bro.. do you shoot it once and a while? I was able to shoot the vets with cardboard box issued surplus. Suprisingly it was dead accurate! I hope to see it in action again at the range. Edited November 28, 2017 by sketch good shits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 7 hours ago, sketch said: thats awesom bro.. do you shoot it once and a while? I was able to shoot the vets with cardboard box issued surplus. Suprisingly it was dead accurate! I hope to see it in action again at the range. Once, many years ago, now it holds a place of honor in my safe. The story of how I got it is cool, but that's a tale if I get to an Arizona ar308 weekend... with a lot of good whiskey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) I had a WWII Remington Rand for a while , I would buy another for a respectable price . When I first got it ( $ 125 , 1978 ) there was no front sight , I replaced it by straking another on & it blew off after the first shot , so I fitted a new Barrel & Bushing ( both surplus parts ) & it was a great shooter after that . And I still have the Barrel . But not the Pistol . Edited November 28, 2017 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Here is a good article on the 1911 program . http://taskandpurpose.com/army-m1911-pistols-sale-price-date/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 More on how CMP will distribute 1911's . CMP 1911 Information To all CMP constituents: The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army. Some preliminary decisions: Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt. All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed. Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) successful completion of a NICS background check, 6) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to. The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person and successfully complete another NICS check by the recipient FFL holder before the pistol can be transferred. Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year. No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales. CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world. Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery. Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders. Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator. The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP. Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator. When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one. As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random. Mark Johnson Chief Operating Officer Civilian Marksmanship Program www.thecmp.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 "The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person and successfully complete another NICS check by the recipient FFL holder before the pistol can be transferred." Ooow, that's going to put a damper on people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Are CMP guns usually cheap? Whats the draw here over just buying a shiny new 1911? Edit...never mind. Scrolled up lol. Edited December 5, 2017 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 To have a 1911 from the 40's would be very cool for me. The hook with the 4473 having to be done twice killed it for me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 6 hours ago, unforgiven said: To have a 1911 from the 40's would be very cool for me. The hook with the 4473 having to be done twice killed it for me though. I think they will out price what I'm willing to pay for one , but we will see . I was sent an update or correction from CMP today , I have to read it to see what was added or changed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 As much as I would like one, I think I am going to pass. I wouldn't shoot it much, and it is a lot of rigamarole to go through. Might change my mind though. Now if they were still $19 like they were in the early 60’s, that would be another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 8 hours ago, Sisco said: Now if they were still $19 like they were in the early 60’s, that would be another story. Even if they were priced in today's dollars equivalent to $19 in the 60's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, 392heminut said: Even if they were priced in today's dollars equivalent to $19 in the 60's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) Updated rules or procedures for ordering a 1911 from the CMP. Lotta Hoops to go through . CMP 1911 Information The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army. Some preliminary decisions further clarified updated 12/12/2017: CMP will have an all-new 1911 order form, 1911 purchasing instructions, a 1911 page on our web site, a dedicated 1911 FFL fax number and email address for the FFL holder to send their FFL with customer's name attached. The customer will have to send in a complete new order packet with all new qualifying criteria included. Everyone will be a new customer, everyone starts with no advantage or disadvantage. CMP 1911 is an FFL governed operation and is a separate entity from CMP and has to have its own record keeping operation with no ties to the old CMP records. Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt. CMP will price at fair market value in accordance with CMP's enabling legislation. Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) a signed copy of the 01, 02, 07 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to. These are "store front" FFLs. A NICS background check will be performed by CMP on the customer to assure the customer is eligible to purchase prior to shipment to the "store front" FFL licensed dealer. The customer must receive a "proceed" from NICS prior to shipment of the pistol to the FFL licensed dealer. The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person at the FFL dealers place of business, successfully passing a NICS check, in which the information is provided by the FFL holder to NICS, before the pistol can be transferred. This is a second NICS check performed on the customer. Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year. No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales. All 1911 orders will come in via USPS, UPS, Fed EX, etc. CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world. Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery, USPS, UPS, Fed Ex, etc. Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders. Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator. The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP. Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator. When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one 1911 type pistol. As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grades and pricing options will be available. Note: 1911 type pistols purchased from CMP cannot be transferred to 03 FFL (curio and relic) license. BATF and the United States Army prefer the second background check be performed by a "store front" FFL dealer. Each customer purchasing a 1911 type pistol from CMP will be subjected to two NICS background checks, one the information provided by CMP to NICS and the second the information will be provided to NICS by the FFL dealer in which the pistol is shipped. Ordering Information: CMP will have an all-new 1911 order form, 1911 purchasing instructions, a 1911 page on our web site, a dedicated 1911 FFL fax number and email address for the FFL holder to send their FFL with customer name attached. The customer will have to send in a complete new order packet with all new qualifying criteria included. Everyone will be a new customer, everyone starts with no advantage or disadvantage. CMP 1911 is an FFL governed operation and is a separate entity from CMP and has to have its own record keeping operation with no ties to the old CMP records. Concerning sale price of the 1911s: CMP has been selling M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, 1903s, .22s, etc. for 21+ years and we have never taken advantage of anyone. CMP is not going to start price gouging people now with the 1911s. The 1911s will be priced at fair market value just like our M1 Garands. The CMP's enabling legislation directs sales of items at fair market value. Mark Johnson Chief Operating Officer Civilian Marksmanship Program www.thecmp.org www.TheCMP.org JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST Edited December 12, 2017 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 This article makes it sound easy - just get ready and have your paperwork in order... http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/01/05/how-to-get-your-hands-on-historic-m1911-pistol-from-us-army-stockpile.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted January 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 The grape vine is putting the std class of 1911's @ around $ 3K , if true , they can have them . I'm waiting for the M1 Garands & M1 Carbines from South Korea that have been blocked by the O'butthead admin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 3 hours ago, survivalshop said: The grape vine is putting the std class of 1911's @ around $ 3K I can't imagine that price would hold for long, there just aren't that many serious collectors to maintain that level of pricing. I know I won't have one if it is even half that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 47 minutes ago, jtallen83 said: I can't imagine that price would hold for long, there just aren't that many serious collectors to maintain that level of pricing. I know I won't have one if it is even half that! Same here. It seems to defeat the original purpose of CMP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Sisco said: Same here. It seems to defeat the original purpose of CMP. I would concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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