JF89 Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 What are your favorite non AR 5.56 rifles? We had this discussion over on Full30 https://forum.full30.com/t/what-are-some But I am curious what AR guys opinions are of the other 5.56 rifles out there? What ones have you liked or disliked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 I have a Remington 700 and a Ruger American, both in .223 cal. I’d say (based on my skill level) that neither one is significantly more accurate than the other. My RA is about 2 lbs lighter though, so it gets a lot more attention. Mid I remember correct, my 700 likes <55gr and the RA likes >55gr. I think the 700 is a 1:12 and the RA is 1:8. I also don’t feel guilty for shooting Mil ammo through the much less expensive RA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 My Ruger GSR .308 is my favorite rifle to shoot. Even more so when I can steal @Rsquared‘s AAC suppressor to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF89 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Robocop1051 said: My Ruger GSR .308 is my favorite rifle to shoot. Even more so when I can steal @Rsquared‘s AAC suppressor to play with. What makes you like the GSR so much? 1911s and a GSR, you must be a Jeff Cooper fan lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 8 hours ago, JF89 said: What makes you like the GSR so much? 1911s and a GSR, you must be a Jeff Cooper fan lol I’ve always been a fan of the M77 action. To be honest, if the Mossberg MVP existed at the time, I probably would’ve bought that instead. Just because I already had at least twenty LR-20 mags. I bought my GSR from a friend for $550, who gave me a 6.8SPC barrel, which I sold for $250. He also gave me 10 AICS mags, all full of Hornady ammo, and a Nikon 2x scope. The mags + ammo were worth that price by themselves. Since then, I’ve dumped a bunch more money into it. I justify the extras based on how much the rifle actually cost me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 8 hours ago, JF89 said: you must be a Jeff Cooper fan lol My company is literally called “Condition Red Ordnance Manufacturing” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 I really like the iwi tavor , for a semi auto alternative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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98Z5V Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Mossberg MVP in 5.56 chamber,18" fluted barrel, non-threaded. Runs AR mags. Put a fixed 3x Nikon BDC scope on it. Love that light little bastard. I can't find the thread I did on it, but SureFire 60s fit in it... I found 2 pics - I'll keep looking for the whole thread... Edited November 29, 2018 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF89 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 7 hours ago, Lonewolf McQuade said: I am warming up to the Tavor, I really want to try the x95 though. I have only shot a Tavor a couple times and outside of mag changes it seems like a pretty cool rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF89 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 8 hours ago, Robocop1051 said: My company is literally called “Condition Red Ordnance Manufacturing” Do you use a weaver stance too? Lol his books are pretty good even though his TTPs are obviously a little dated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Had a Savage Axis .308, sold it. I'd rather have a AR. Just my 2 mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF89 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 11 hours ago, 98Z5V said: Mossberg MVP in 5.56 chamber,18" fluted barrel, non-threaded. Runs AR mags. Put a fixed 3x Nikon BDC scope on it. Love that light little bastard. I can't find the thread I did on it, but SureFire 60s fit in it... I found 2 pics - I'll keep looking for the whole thread... That is a purty rifle. How does she shoot compared to an AR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBrien Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 I loved my Mini-14 for a decade (and would still own another one), then a buddy finally talked me out of it. Used the cash to fund another AR build... On an unrelated note, I have looked pretty hard at that Mossberg MVP "Predator Rifle" in .308. Put a forward Pic rail on it and a Burris 2-7x32 Scout scope, and I think it'd be a neat, lightweight .308 rifle. Note: I know Mossberg makes a .308 "Scout Rifle," but I appreciate the simplicity (and aesthetics...) of optics-only. And I love laminate stocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 M14/M1A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str8shooter Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 6 Dasher and 308 twins Edited November 30, 2018 by Str8shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 You fellas got some nice guns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 11 hours ago, JF89 said: That is a purty rifle. How does she shoot compared to an AR? Like a bolt gun... What I like about it is simple - you find a bolt gun in .223 Rem/5.56 NATO - and it's chambered in .223 Rem. Look at the Remington 700 options in .223 Rem... Don't shoot 5.56 NATO through that thing for a long time, or it's GONNA blow. That's not internet-hysteria, there. It'll happen, over time. This is chambered in 5.56 NATO - shoot what you want. It takes AR mags, and runs every kind of AR mag I've tried, including a SureFire 60 (Because...). Mag-fed bolt guns give me a boner. I have alot of bolt guns, and only 4 aren't mag-fed. 8mm Mauser, Springfield M1903A4, a single-shot .22LR bolt I inherited from my Grandfather, and an original Kimber .308 bolt gun (made in Clackamas, OR). The rest are mag-fed, even another Savage FV-SR .22LR bolt. What I don't like... it's 1:9" rifling. Okay, so deal with that. What will it do, and what can it shoot? It'll shoot my Hornady 55gr FMJ-BT range-trash handloads under MOA. Hornady 52gr Match and 55gr GMX shoot at .75 MOA. So, know the limitations of your rifle... What can I accurately shoot with that light ammo? Not my favorite 845-yard target. I can get them to 500 yards accurately, and within 300, they rock. So, that leads to what optic to put on such a gun? Fixed 3x Nikon P-223, with a BDC to 600 yards. Perfect for this gun, barrel twist, and available projectiles. I love it, for what I set it up for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lonewolf McQuade said: You fellas got some nice guns! I have some nice Cactus, too - I need to get a collective pic together of all cactus I have... I collect them... Just like the guns, some of them will fuk shiit up, others just give you a leak... Edited November 30, 2018 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, 98Z5V said: I have some nice Cactus, too - I need to get a collective pic together of all cactus I have... I collect them... Just like the guns, some of them will fuk shiit up, others just give you a leak... My fondest memories of the cactus was about 37 years ago. I got a rather LARGE needle approximately 1 1/2" long gored completely side to side through my finger! My "genius" dad "attempting to remove it with needle nose pliers, UNSUCCESSFULLY , he busted the ends off both sides & off to the hospital we went to have it cut out..somewhere I still have the little vial that doc gave me as a souvenir full of the bloody pieces he extracted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Lonewolf McQuade said: My fondest memories of the cactus was about 37 years ago. I got a rather LARGE needle approximately 1 1/2" long gored completely side to side through my finger! My "genius" dad "attempting to remove it with needle nose pliers, UNSUCCESSFULLY , he busted the ends off both sides & off to the hospital we went to have it cut out..somewhere I still have the little vial that doc gave me as a souvenir full of the bloody pieces he extracted. If that fucker was a Saguaro cactus - those needles NEVER soften, no matter how long they're in you... They are the DEBIL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 @Matt.Cross found out that the Chollo cactus are equally as evil, and they never stop attacking you, as long as you're moving. They just climb higher the more you shake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 We did it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, 98Z5V said: If that fucker was a Saguaro cactus - those needles NEVER soften, no matter how long they're in you... They are the DEBIL! Not sure what it was, I know it didn't soften one fucking bit in the four hours of agony till cheapskate finally admitted defeat & got me to the hospital!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF89 Posted November 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, 98Z5V said: I have some nice Cactus, too - I need to get a collective pic together of all cactus I have... I collect them... Just like the guns, some of them will fuk shiit up, others just give you a leak... f**k cactus, I hate those little bastards but the ones up here do not look anything like the ones in that pic. Edited November 30, 2018 by JF89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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