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[unforgiven]

So the question is if I wear glasses and use a scope,can I remove the glasses and use the optic to make up the difference and remove glasses? 

Edited July 29, 2021 by unforgiven

[BigNate]

1 hour ago, unforgiven said:

So the question is if I wear glasses and use a scope,can I remove the glasses and use the optic to make up the difference and remove glasses? 

I'm no eye doctor - but I'm sure that the answer is "it depends."  I've started dealing with age related "long sightedness" - I'm still 20/20 at a distance - but I have trouble reading small print - or in low-light situations.  Wearing my readers while looking through an optic (or for that matter any sights) does nothing for me.  

[unforgiven]

The arm on my glasses stick out at the ends and after a few hours of muff's is not comfortable.

[unforgiven]

We do have an in house ojo specialist.

[Lonewolf McQuade]

1 hour ago, BigNate said:

I'm still 20/20 at a distance - but I have trouble reading small print - or in low-light situations

That's exactly where I'm at.

2 hours ago, unforgiven said:

So the question is if I wear glasses and use a scope,can I remove the glasses and use the optic to make up the difference and remove glasses? 

I would think IF you can get the optic adjusted enough to see well, the glasses aren't needed. Hopefully our RESIDENT EYE QUACK @Armed Eye Doc can shed some knowledge on the question. 

Then again, he may try to sell us prescription rifle scopes. Bet that could be a profitable endeavor 

[Belt Fed]

2 hours ago, unforgiven said:

can I remove the glasses and use the optic to make up the difference and remove glasses? 

Yes, i wear glasses and  remove them or pull them down on my nose to use a scope. but it will only work if it's magnified. a red dot you will still need them if it not magnified.

[unforgiven]

54 minutes ago, Lonewolf McQuade said:

That's exactly where I'm at.

I would think IF you can get the optic adjusted enough to see well, the glasses aren't needed. Hopefully our RESIDENT EYE QUACK @Armed Eye Doc can shed some knowledge on the question. 

Then again, he may try to sell us prescription rifle scopes. Bet that could be a profitable endeavor 

Hahaha I know right

[unforgiven]

To make matters worse I'm a left eye shooter with a cataract brewing but not cooked yet. Glad I can see as well as I can considering years of welding and burning.

Edited July 29, 2021 by unforgiven

[shooterrex]

Get the cataract done. It's like new eyes. My right eye before surgery the big E at the top of the chart was a blur. Now 20/20 in that eye for distance. Still need readers for up close.

If you scope is focused properly to your eyes you can take the glasses off.

[unforgiven]

Thanks brother when I retired I had my right eye done. I am the worse patient in the world when it comes to my eyes. When they did the right eye and strapped my down to start I was freaking out took twice as long for the procedure. I don't look forward to doing it again. But your right the eye was like new.

[DNP]

My dad had been fighting the same thing recently. He’s found he can get the scope adjusted well enough to do without the glasses. He can get it much better with the glasses on, but you won’t get it to work with both. I can’t look through that scope at all when he has it adjusted for him. 

[Armed Eye Doc]

Most magnified optics will have something like this on the eyepiece.

If you have a copy of your glasses prescription, you can turn the +/- dial to the approximate spot that matches your glasses Rx not including the bifocal.  This will not account for astigmatism at all.

[Armed Eye Doc]

3 hours ago, Lonewolf McQuade said:

Then again, he may try to sell us prescription rifle scopes. Bet that could be a profitable endeavor 

Actually, an adapter that can slip over an eyepiece that has the ability to take a prescription lens may be a niche product.  I would have to see if it is feasible.  It would need to be matched to the shooter, not rotate, be adjusted to the eye relief of the scope or adjustable if it could be made to move from scope to scope.  It would be similar to a monocle, but not worn on the eye.

[Lonewolf McQuade]

5 minutes ago, Armed Eye Doc said:

Actually, an adapter that can slip over an eyepiece that has the ability to take a prescription lens may be a niche product.  I would have to see if it is feasible.  It would need to be matched to the shooter, not rotate, be adjusted to the eye relief of the scope or adjustable if it could be made to move from scope to scope.  It would be similar to a monocle, but not worn on the eye.

Figure  it out & you'll be rich!

Edited July 30, 2021 by Lonewolf McQuade

[Lane]

4 hours ago, Armed Eye Doc said:

This will not account for astigmatism at all.

What does an astigmatism do to the scope view? I noticed that I can't use reflex optics (see a cascade of dot/sights); I think that's an astigmatism issue. Don't really know what my eyes are actually like because I don't have glasses anymore, or have any idea what my prescription was 20 years ago. 

My scope eye has very poor vision, but using a scope I've dialed in for myself is what I recall wearing glasses was like. Crystal clear view.

[Armed Eye Doc]

4 minutes ago, Lonewolf McQuade said:

Figure  it out & you'll be rich!

I'll do some testing.

[Lonewolf McQuade]

1 minute ago, Armed Eye Doc said:

I'll do some testing.

Remember, test subjects should be expendable, $hit happens. @Belt Fed has lived a long life.......just sayin......

[Armed Eye Doc]

47 minutes ago, Lane said:

What does an astigmatism do to the scope view? I noticed that I can't use reflex optics (see a cascade of dot/sights); I think that's an astigmatism issue. Don't really know what my eyes are actually like because I don't have glasses anymore, or have any idea what my prescription was 20 years ago. 

My scope eye has very poor vision, but using a scope I've dialed in for myself is what I recall wearing glasses was like. Crystal clear view.

This gives a pretty good explanation of what a red dot looks like with an astigmatism.  

https://www.badassoptic.com/best-rifle-optics-for-astigmatism/

Here is their graphic illustration of an astigmatism view.

[Lane]

6 minutes ago, Armed Eye Doc said:

Here is their graphic illustration of an astigmatism view.

Yep; but much worse than any of those. I can count 7 distinct target spots, and some of them more blurry than others. 

But a nice scope is crystal clear for me once adjusted. Is there still a distortion that I don't notice? Is there a benefit to an additional lens? 

Edited July 30, 2021 by Lane

[Armed Eye Doc]

Just now, Lane said:

Yep; but much worse than any of those. I can count 7 distinct target spots, and some of them more blurry than others. 

It can also be a cataract.  That can cause multiple images as well as cause astigmatism itself.

[Lane]

1 minute ago, Armed Eye Doc said:

It can also be a cataract.

Well that sounds worth looking into; thanks for the tip. 

I've been shooting almost exclusively irons lately (an ammo savings measure). I can hit my targets; but it takes me quite a while to acquire a target as it's not easy to point at even high contrast targets. I assume most people would shoot irons with glasses if that were the case?

[mdripley930]

My problem was cataracts in both eyes, I got them removed , Best Money ever spent haven't seen this well since my 30's still need readers for Up close keyboards etc.

[shooterrex]

Yep had both cataracts removed and I don't need glasses except for readers. A world of difference.

[unforgiven]

That's great guys 🍻🍻 Eye Doc here found a guy in Orland Park Ill. I have one more to go and I don't look forward to it. Having got metal shavings in my eyes in the past and I did have safety glasses on. Just freaks me out. 

[98Z5V]

Just noticed that I completely missed this when it all came up.  If you have an astigmatism, a red dot (Aimpoint type, and all other red dots) will fuk you up.  You will need a holographic sight, for your red dot duties.   Think EOTech.    Holosun just came out with a badass little one, too.