Changing nature of warfare.

[Sisco]

If you look at this exercise in isolation, it is no big deal. If you start looking at it in context of other similar exercises and in light of rapidly improving armaments from both Russia and China with far greater reach then previous generations, it is evident the U.S. military is responding by developing decentralized methods to protect our forces.  But also with the expectation that in the next war, the American homeland is no longer protected by distance from even conventional weapons of our enemies, and airfields and bases in the U.S. may be attacked and put out of commission. Not to mention dams and power plants. Got solar?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/air-force-a-10s-just-made-a-highway-to-the-danger-zone-in-michigan/ar-AAMZ1uj?li=BBnbfcL

Edited August 8, 2021 by Sisco

[unforgiven]

That's the only way to control road rage. 

[Doodle]

I've driven down M-32 many times.  Have also seen the A-10s almost scrubbing the trees in the National and state forests up there many times while out hunting.  There's a squadron based out of Selfridge, just north of Detroit.

Here's links to some videos.

https://www.mlive.com/news/2021/08/video-shows-military-thunderbolt-iis-historic-landing-on-michigan-highway-during-northern-strike.html

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/08/05/watch-a-10s-use-rural-michigan-highway-as-a-runway/

Also, here's a few (not so good phone) pics from the Air Show at Willow Run yesterday, a really hot and humid affair (and loud! glad I brought the earplugs).

B-25 Mitchells:

Willow Run's own B-17 on the runway and with P-51 escort:

Air Force Thunderbirds F-16s:

Even the (modern) Luftwaffe was there:

 

[Doodle]

The airshow also had A-10s doing simulated bomb runs, not posting pics as the crappy ones I have don't do it any justice.

[Sisco]

2 hours ago, Doodle said:

The airshow also had A-10s doing simulated bomb runs, not posting pics as the crappy ones I have don't do it any justice.

My father worked on the development of the A10 GAU-8 30mm Ammo back in the 1970’s. 

[Steve crawford]

I got to see an A-10 play with a Big tank at the old air base in Austin, TX back in about 85 or 86.  It was impressive how quick that A-10 could turn and be back on target.  I asked the pilot if the 30mm would go through Russian tank armor.  He said no.  He said 2 passes with his cannon and there would be a large pile of ragged chunks of steel.  I asked " you said it would not go through the armor?"  He said " If you hit an anvil enough times with a hammer you will break it up into small pieces ".    😁😁😁

   Steve                                                                                                                                                                                     

Edited August 8, 2021 by Steve crawford

[Sisco]

Back in the early 80’s some body broke into the old Twin Cities Army Ammunition plant, went through three layers of security, and opened a safe, and stole a developmental round of the Gau-8. Professional work and I will bet that within a week it was sitting in a laboratory in the old Soviet Union.

[Doodle]

17 hours ago, Sisco said:

My father worked on the development of the A10 GAU-8 30mm Ammo back in the 1970’s. 

Very impressive stuff.  More I look into it, the more amazing it seems.  Here's a pic from the inter webs that provides some perspective...had no idea regarding the sheer size of that gun...

[JF89]

I was reading an article the other day on countries that still use WW2 era tanks 

[JF89]

[DNP]

Photos like that reveal how good we really have it here. That’s everyday reality for those folks. And here’s Karen bitching and throwing a fit because the coffee shop was out of an ingredient necessary to make her gluten free vegan soy strawberry hot pile of garbage in a cup. 

[JF89]

That's not true we have racist rocks oppressing people! /s

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/racist-rock-removed-from-college-campus-after-black-student-union-activists-complain

[Sisco]

2 of those are old tank destroyers, not tanks.

[DNP]

12 minutes ago, JF89 said:

That's not true we have racist rocks oppressing people! /s

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/racist-rock-removed-from-college-campus-after-black-student-union-activists-complain

This has literally hit rock bottom. I didn’t realize we were living in such hard times. That’s my privilege showing through again I guess - I’ve just been living under a rock my whole life. 

[JF89]

1 hour ago, Sisco said:

2 of those are old tank destroyers, not tanks.

Fair enough, I can't tell the difference to be honest I just remember reading an article of poor countries using old tech.

[unforgiven]

1 hour ago, JF89 said:

Fair enough, I can't tell the difference to be honest I just remember reading an article of poor countries using old tech.

Taliban just got a weapons upgrade. 

[98Z5V]

6 hours ago, Sisco said:

2 of those are old tank destroyers, not tanks.

Pics 1 and 2, Russian SU-85's.  Good eye, brother.  

EDIT - Oh shiit, one of those bitches is the Su-100...  

Edited August 10, 2021 by 98Z5V

[Sisco]

17 minutes ago, 98Z5V said:

Pics 1 and 2, Russian SU-85's.  Good eye, brother.  

EDIT - Oh shiit, one of those bitches is the Su-100...  

The SU 100 was a reaction to the Germans King Tiger, as the 85mm gun of the SU 85 and the T-34/85 couldn’t defeat it’s frontal armor. It also came in handy for breaching buildings during house to house battles.

Edited August 10, 2021 by Sisco

[DNP]

Breaching houses?  When a good door kicker just isn’t quite enough…

[shooterrex]

[Sisco]

^

[Sharpshooter]

Oh yeah, turn that 30 mm bitch loose on those walkers. They be needing their own walkers shortly! The ones with tennis balls on the front two legs!

[blue109]

On 8/9/2021 at 11:51 AM, Sisco said:

2 of those are old tank destroyers, not tanks.

You are getting a pants down hug for this one.....

[Sisco]

1 hour ago, blue109 said:

You are getting a pants down hug for this one.....

I just don’t know when to shut up.

[98Z5V]

6 hours ago, Sisco said:

I just don’t know when to shut up.

Oh, make no mistake - it's been way too late - for you - for a long time.  There's no way you'd GET OUT OF a pants-down hug down here...     I'm willing to risk the bear paws.  Made that decision long ago...