Matt.Cross Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 It has been quite a while now that I've wanted to get my hands on a full-scale 1911 in .22 without going through a conversion kit, and the pistol I had my eye on was the ATI GSG 1911-22 up to this point. However, today I found this and I do believe the GSG has died the death of a dream replaced.Check it out! http://www.waltherarms.com/products/tactical-rimfire-replicas/government-1911-a1-rail-gun/While you are there, check out all Walther's new tactical rimfire replica series, they've got some great training and familiarization weapons.
tackleberry2000 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 Almost like my Kimber. Thanks for the info.
planeflyer21 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 My buddy just told me Walther makes the Colt, the GSG, and the SIG 1911 .22s on the same line. Same parts interchangeability on all with regular 1911 (28 parts?).Jon
Microgunner Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 I believe the GSG is the better pistol.
Matt.Cross Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Posted February 16, 2013 I believe the GSG is the better pistol.That's pretty surprising, but I don't doubt you a bit. What are the differences between the two?
Microgunner Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 That's pretty surprising' date=' but I don't doubt you a bit. What are the differences between the two? [/quote']Walther, an Umarex owned company (of air soft fame), makes extensive use of ZAMAK in their 22lr designs. Most notibly their slides.Works OK I guess, whereas the GSG, imported by ATI, makes their slides from aluminum, a far better material IMO. I've owned a few Walther / Umarex firearms and although they've functioned reasonby well I've decided that ZAMAK firearms are off my shoppig list.Life's too short to spend it shooting cheaply cast ZAMAK firearms, at least for me. I own a lot of rimfires and I can recommend two 1911 22s that I personally own and find outstanding: the Kimber Rimfire Target and the RIA XT22.Quality materials and great shooters both.
imschur Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 FWIW I have known microgunner for several years now and I know two things for certain. He knows .22's like nobody else I know and what he's is stating about the Zamak he is being gentle. The household names for Zamak are pot metal and white metal. Think Chinese toys and inexpensive household fixtures.
Matt.Cross Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Posted February 16, 2013 Walther, an Umarex owned company (of air soft fame), makes extensive use of ZAMAK in their 22lr designs. Most notibly their slides.Works OK I guess, whereas the GSG, imported by ATI, makes their slides from aluminum, a far better material IMO. I've owned a few Walther / Umarex firearms and although they've functioned reasonby well I've decided that ZAMAK firearms are off my shoppig list.Life's too short to spend it shooting cheaply cast ZAMAK firearms, at least for me. I own a lot of rimfires and I can recommend two 1911 22s that I personally own and find outstanding: the Kimber Rimfire Target and the RIA XT22.Quality materials and great shooters both.Makes perfect sense. Overall, what's your opinion of the GSG?FWIW I have known microgunner for several years now and I know two things for certain. He knows .22's like nobody else I know and what he's is stating about the Zamak he is being gentle. The household names for Zamak are pot metal and white metal. Think Chinese toys and inexpensive household fixtures. I have total confidence in Microgunner and his experience, I'm happy to have information like this to base my spending decisions on. I bought a S&W built Walther P22 for my wife some time back, and it's been a sweet little pistol to this point, but I didn't have any inside info on the Walther tactical rimfire replica series. Thanks for the input guys, keep it coming.
Robocop1051 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 Microgunner is to .22's, as 98Z5V is to AR's....Minus the white spot <laughs> <lmao>
unforgiven Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 Microgunner is to .22's, as 98Z5V is to AR's....Minus the white spot <laughs> <lmao> :hornet: That's from headbutting knuckelheads.Just sayin <lmao> <laughs>
edgecrusher Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 Makes perfect sense. Overall, what's your opinion of the GSG?Matt, I have an awesome GSG5, the thing is one of my favorite guns, never a failure when using HV ammo, I have shot 3000 rds in one sessions without cleaning before, pure fun..Hey Micro, not to jack Matt's thread, but can you get an Advantage arms Glock conversion kit? (For a G21 or G30) Sorry Matt, like a Somali pirate, aarrrrrr!
Matt.Cross Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Posted February 16, 2013 Matt, I have an awesome GSG5, the thing is one of my favorite guns, never a failure when using HV ammo, I have shot 3000 rds in one sessions without cleaning before, pure fun..Hey Micro, not to jack Matt's thread, but can you get an Advantage arms Glock conversion kit? (For a G21 or G30) Sorry Matt, like a Somali pirate, aarrrrrr!It's OK, i've done my fair share of the thread jacking, I don't mind at all. <thumbsup>I may just go with the GSG after all, we'll have to see.
Microgunner Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 Makes perfect sense. Overall' date=' what's your opinion of the GSG? [/quote']They're well liked firearms for sure so I'm about to step on some toes here.I purchased three of their rifles before discovering the internals are mostly ZAMAK. A GSG MP5, a GSG Colt M4 OPS and a GSG Kalashnikov. I still own the Zalashnikov but only because I've been too lazy to drag it out of the safe and put it up for sale.The Colt and GSG-5 are long gone.Traded the GSG-5 for a brand new S&W 7" mod 41. SCORE!I'm divorcing myself of these rifles, not because they didn't function, but rather because of construction materials and methods. I can't own every firearm in the world so I've become more selective. Drew is to blame for this. Early on, when first getting into tactical rimfire rifles, Drew turned me onto the CMMG Sierra AR upper and after seeing how a quality tactical rimfire is built I soon realized how poorly the GSG rifles were built.Lifes a lesson. This is why I haven't purchased a tactical styled 22lr rifle in a while, hard to live up to the CMMG's standard.The GSG pistol may have ZAMAK internal parts, I don't know, but their slide is aluminum. A huge improvement.I also owned a Walther P22 and sold it due to the ZAMAK slide.
Robocop1051 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 Just in case people don't know. Zamak is a zinc alloy die cast metal, kinda like our old Hotwheels. No where near the quality if forged or billet aluminum.
Microgunner Posted February 16, 2013 Report Posted February 16, 2013 Hey Micro' date=' not to jack Matt's thread, but can you get an Advantage arms Glock conversion kit? (For a G21 or G30) [/quote']Them bastards are perpetually sold out. Co-worker Chuck has been trying to get one for a year with no luck wholesale.You best bet in a retail internet purchase.
98Z5V Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Drew is to blame for this. Somehow, I knew this would all come back to Drew... <laughs> <lmao>MG, you know he not too proud to blame both you and I for damn near everything, right? Can't believe you guys are giving me more poop about the birthmark... :fawkdance:
edgecrusher Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Damn, found a kit for the G30, now to order it in the morning after work, then face the wrath of an angry pregnant woman for spending diaper money.... <dontknow> fcuk it.Birth spot huh? If that's the case, my my beard got birth marked by birdshot!
98Z5V Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 You're passing up a .308 lower, for that?... :o <dontknow>Oh, I saw what you did there, too. I'll file that away, and come up with something for later... <laughs>
edgecrusher Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 You're passing up a .308 lower, for that?... :o <dontknow>Oh, I saw what you did there, too. I'll file that away, and come up with something for later... <laughs>No, most likely going to stay on mommas good side, by not buying any new toys....sad face ...And I wouldn't expect anything less, all is fair, I accept all retaliation, even if you have to use it later....
Microgunner Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 I purchased three of their rifles before discovering the internals are mostly ZAMAK. A GSG MP5' date=' a [b']GSG Colt M4 OPS and a GSG Kalashnikov. ''Correction, I realized last night that my Colt was a Walther/Umarex product.Very nice looking but mostly ZAMAK inside.
Magwa Posted February 18, 2013 Report Posted February 18, 2013 I have the sig version in FDE and it has been flawless..... kinda pain to strip but nothing to nuts.....
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