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I think that I see a new marketing scheme for us. We can make Millions! .............or.......at least enough for a case a of beer and maybe some gas money. <lmao>

Posted (edited)

A "can" could be disguised as a beer can. If it's a big suppressor, you could still hide it as a can of Foster's Lager. I think the ATF won't even notice.

Edited by shibiwan
Posted

A "can" could be disguised as a beer can. If it's a big suppressor, you could still hide it as a can of Foster's Lager. I think the ATF won't even notice.

 

Oohhh...now I understand why they got Alcohol too!

Posted

When I was talkin to brother Larry the other day,I said it was all lies. <laughs> :ifly:

Well that back fired didn't it ;)

I know deny deny deny :D

Posted

A "can" could be disguised as a beer can. If it's a big suppressor, you could still hide it as a can of Foster's Lager. I think the ATF won't even notice.

so I guess you havnt seen the "solvent trap adaptors" for sale lately? mount an oil filter or commercial fuel filter on the end of your rifle to trap those nasty solvents while cleaning? not that I would have one of those for any reason...no way no how...

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so I guess you havnt seen the "solvent trap adaptors" for sale lately? mount an oil filter or commercial fuel filter on the end of your rifle to trap those nasty solvents while cleaning? not that I would have one of those for any reason...no way no how...

 

I have... I have no reason to own one nor do I want to screw up my FFL application, especially since I'll be making full fledged ones soon.

Posted

blue, you know we can legally make our own, in AZ.  As long as it's for personal use, and it never leaves the state borders.

 

 

I'm still digging up the legal-eze on this. 

 

I'm not kidding on this one.  <thumbsup>

Posted (edited)

blue, you know we can legally make our own, in AZ.  As long as it's for personal use, and it never leaves the state borders.

 

 

I'm still digging up the legal-eze on this. 

 

I'm not kidding on this one.  <thumbsup>

 

I'll take a copy.... :D

 

To my knowledge, Federal Law pre-empts state law. so I think its not possible.

Edited by shibiwan
Posted

ARS 13-3114 http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/03114.htm (from AZ HB2307 - Arizona Firearms Freedom Act)

 

It doesn't cover NFA items. 

 

Would be good info either way. Just means I can start experimenting before I finalize the eventual designs.

 

ARS 13-3114

 

It doesn't cover NFA items. 

 

 

 

 Yes, it does.  It covers all firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition, if produced from in-state components.

 

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/03114.htm

 

13-3114. Arizona manufactured firearms; regulation; definitions

A. Beginning October 1, 2010, a personal firearm, a firearm accessory or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in this state and that remains within the borders of this state is not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of Congress to regulate interstate commerce and is not considered to have traveled in interstate commerce.

B. This section applies to a firearm, a firearm accessory or ammunition that is manufactured in this state from basic materials and that can be manufactured without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state.

C. The importation into this state of a firearm accessory, any generic or insignificant part that has other manufacturing or consumer product applications or any basic materials, including unmachined steel and unshaped wood that is incorporated into, attached to or used in conjunction with a firearm, firearm accessory or ammunition manufactured in this state, does not subject the firearm, firearm accessory or ammunition to federal regulation.

D. This section does not apply to:

1. A firearm that cannot be carried and used by one person.

2. A firearm that has a bore diameter of more than one and one-half inches and that uses smokeless powder as a propellant.

3. Ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an explosion of chemical energy after the projectile leaves the firearm.

4. A firearm that discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of the trigger or other firing device.

E. A firearm that is manufactured and sold in this state pursuant to this section shall have the words "made in Arizona" clearly stamped on a central metallic part such as the receiver or frame.

F. For the purposes of this section:

1. "Firearm accessory" means an item that is used in conjunction with or mounted on a firearm but that is not essential to the basic function of a firearm, including telescopic or laser sights, magazines, flash suppressors, folding or aftermarket stocks and grips, speedloaders, ammunition carriers and lights for target illumination.

2. "Generic or insignificant part" includes springs, screws, nuts and pins.

3. "Manufactured" means that a firearm, a firearm accessory or ammunition has been created from basic materials for functional usefulness, including forging, casting, machining or other processes for working materials.

 

 

 

BAM!  That $hit just happened.  :eek:

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