edgecrusher Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 No worry about the 338 my man. I've still got more. But the thought is appreciated. Now the old man's car. That sumbitch would be AWESOME to see. Wish that we had time back in May. DAMMIT! Hmmm.....2008 hours here right now. If I start driving...................I can be there by 0408 hours (or so). I may have to use Rob's couch when I get there. <lmao> Hahaha! I love it ! We can find more comfortable arrangements, but it is 72* in the living room, so nice. We definitely could get up there to see the car run, I can find out his race schedule if you want to plan something out. What was this thread about? Oh yeah, how we jack shit like a bunch of Somali pirates! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Those Somali's don't have $hit compared to this crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKSHEEP Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Ok so on to the next step and I know there are a million blogs about this, but what to put in my bug out bag. How many people are you supporting.... Firearms & ammo, If you can't protect yourself nothing else matters. Water & water filter/purification for obvious reasons. Shelter- 550 cord,tarp/s,1 man tent,emg.blankets, etc... First aid kit. Fire makers, glow sticks,flashlights. Knife/s, hatchet, tomahawk. Fishing string,hooks.... MRE's!!! ....buy a case on Eb*y, they will last for years, just be sure to check the date of mfg. before buying. That's my short list, It is better to have and not need, than to need and not have. If it gets too heavy you can stash some on the trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I'm with SS. Lighter is better. My 5.11 bag will hold just enough to get me by. My plan is to move fast, recon, occupy and fortify. My bag carries essentials, but can be dropped fast. I also believe in load bearing vests. No reason to have your ammo all packed away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKSHEEP Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 ^^^ I don't think there are any one size fits all bug out bags & equipment. They're too many variables with the biggest one being where do you live,Urban,suburbs,rural? Where are you going to bug out? in the city, in the woods? What part of the country are you living in,are you surrounded by liberals? or conservatives?< That would make a huge difference! What's the current season, summer/winter? Is there wildlife available to hunt? How many people are in your group? What are there capabilities? How old/young are they? Can the carry supplies? Can they move fast? Is the Grid down? and many more.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Lets put this mildly , you will never be totally prepared for bugging out , but just having a loaded Bug out bag will make you one hundred times more prepared to some one who doesn't . Most people will have nothing ,but whats in there pantry to survive on & bugging out is the last resort IMO . I'm kinda lucky , I have several in my community that are in the same mind set as I & if something happens ,we will work it out . I will hunker down , as most will until its absolutely time to go . I have game in my back yard & a green house & capture my own drinking water & plenty of woods & swamp around me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Made the inquirey into brother Lonny's ruck,can't wait to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Lets put this mildly , you will never be totally prepared for bugging out , but just having a loaded Bug out bag will make you one hundred times more prepared to some one who doesn't . Most people will have nothing ,but whats in there pantry to survive on & bugging out is the last resort IMO . I'm kinda lucky , I have several in my community that are in the same mind set as I & if something happens ,we will work it out . I will hunker down , as most will until its absolutely time to go . I have game in my back yard & a green house & capture my own drinking water & plenty of woods & swamp around me . Exactly and I understand that, I've got a collection of stuff right now in a tote I keep my hunting gear in. But I'd like to have a bag with what many of you listed. I've got purification straws need to get a first aid kit and a few other things. I've got some ideas, tarp is a good idea blanket too. As it stands me and a buddies family have a rural farm we'd go to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Made the inquirey into brother Lonny's ruck,can't wait to see it. Doing the same.... Still going to get the Erblestock though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 ^^^^ Saw that link,great setup for also carrying a rifle. <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 So....is it better to bug out or hunker down?.......im in the burbs...the neighbors are all gun totin good folks.....they dunno my cache of course......but then again your neighbors could turn into enemies too.....Char volunteered for "overwatch" next to the chimney....:) so what to do? where to go? Char has been on my azz to get a generator ....at least 16kw.....she's gotta have ac <lmao> then when the neighbors hear that thing of course they will all be knockin on the door....if they get past her but then again she's on the roof so she doesnt need AC :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I've wondered about generators in a shtf situation. Likely, gasoline would become extremely precious. Maybe too precious to put in a generator? I can see stocking kerosene for kerosene lamps being a good idea. For either type of fuel, I guess the real question might be, how long will your supply have to last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I've wondered about generators in a shtf situation. Likely, gasoline would become extremely precious. Maybe too precious to put in a generator? I can see stocking kerosene for kerosene lamps being a good idea. For either type of fuel, I guess the real question might be, how long will your supply have to last? In that situation? Not worth it. Figure gas has a shelf life, and no new gas will be coming in. Kerosene is definitely the better option as is diesel fuel (which if you are crafty, home heating oil can also be used ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 A B.O.B. will only work if you have a plan. You need a fluid plan, that is constantly updated. You won't be able to do it all alone, so make sure you have the appropriate people listed in your plan as well. I live in the outskirts suburb of a metropolis, home to about 2.5mil people. While making my way to the hills sounds good in theory, I realized my locale is actually better than I first imagined. I live less than a 1/4 mile from two major waterways, on the edge of miles of rice fields and walking distance to several other resources. I have already recon'd a few locations and have a small plan prepared. I think I'm safer if I stay right where I am. Better to be a lion surrounded by lamb, than a lion surrounded by other lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Better to be a lion surrounded by lamb, than a lion surrounded by other lions. Good thinkin Robo......im gonna hunker down then :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I pretty much agree with Robo on this. Mainly, my place would be the rally point for the few (very few) that are in my inner circle. Since I have the largest arsenal with the variety of weapons, ammo and basic supplies to choose from. How they would get here would be up to them. Then duties would be assigned according to the number that made it. First raid would have to be the liquor store though (gotta have the priorities ya know). keepin it light-hearted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I wonder if a generator hookedup to natural gas might not be a better way to go.While electric might be out,and fuel like said has a shelf life,so far thier has been no disruption in gas unless there is an earthquake. <dontknow> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Well, not to take this too far. But since this is the apocalypse / society breaking down theory being thrown around. You would figure that the military would move in on any and all primary fuel sources and shut them down. Only to begin conserving any and all that they believed that they would need moving forward. Solar (photovoltaic) would probably be the best way. But you're also stuck in one and only one spot. Now if you already have a retreat setup somewhere. Then that would work out ok. But I still wouldn't rely on the traditional fossil fuels. They would be hard to come by. All of this is also worst case scenario. Just thinking out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I wonder if a generator hookedup to natural gas might not be a better way to go.While electric might be out,and fuel like said has a shelf life,so far thier has been no disruption in gas unless there is an earthquake. <dontknow> Rene already checked into the natural gas generator....yep they will work on natural gas and also propane.....might be the way to go....use natural gas then when the gas grid goes down switch to propane you dont get much time off the bbq propane tanks though..... :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Rene already checked into the natural gas generator....yep they will work on natural gas and also propane.....might be the way to go....use natural gas then when the gas grid goes down switch to propane you dont get much time off the bbq propane tanks though..... :) Wash The ability to both generate and cook with propane would be a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 ....or a gas turbine generator. It would run on almost everything, from used cooking oil to propane. My neighbor down the street rents generators... if SHTF, I think I'm covered. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Portable solar oven is the way to go: http://www.amazon.com/Sunflair-Portable-Solar-Cookware-Included/dp/B008S47I8M You can build them pretty darn efficiently too. How much S is HTF? May be best to sit tight where you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 How much S is HTF? May be best to sit tight where you are. If you got a stockpile of ammo and MREs, and other things you can't completely put into a BOB, well, it could be that you're well-prepared at home and doing the "sit tight" is the best option. Although, if you're sitting on a ton of MREs and sitting tight, you'll possibly be burning up lots of your ammo stash. I personally live in a wooded area, where I can take deer any day of the week. Trouble is, I live near a metropolitan area, which is home to lots of hunters -- decent, polite guys who, during SHTF might not be friendly after all. And lots of others with guns, who will be hungry. So we're likely talking major efforts at controlling poachers here in this forest, along with gun-toting looters who have scoured the shelves of the grocery stores downtown. I have a good supply of .22, but I need to give some serious attention to other calibers -- a few .308, less than 1K, would not be enough for long. Like anything else in SHTF, the question is, how long a period of time do you need to prepare for. Maybe the smartest long-term investment is flints and steel for starting fires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.308LiteHunter Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 IMO water will be top priority so I carry one of these http://www.campingsurvival.com/lifestraw.html Also your initial bug out food will be important don't skimp on this, calorie is king, you are going to be burning up a lot of energy. A first aid kit tailored to your area and needs. For example if you have a lot of poison ivy or oak around you take something like this http://www.teclabsinc.com/products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnu-extreme A good knife, 550 paracord and tarp. Also don't rely on one source to make a fire. I can make a bow drill set and make fire with it, but so what that is last resort. I have fire steel , waterproof matches, and several lighters. I will also spread them around between pants, shirt, jacket and socks in case I loose my bag or jacket I'll still have a way to stay warm. Expand from there if you have room or want to carry more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 My wife got me something for my pak to use for hunting & now one resides in my B.O.B , its a sealable water proof inside liner & I can tell you from hunting in the rain for three days , it keeps it dry in there . Of course thats if your pak is not water proof already . Still a good idea. As said, the Magnesium fire starter is a must , Bic lighters don't work too well below a certain temperature , unless you keep them in your pocket ,next to body heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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