shibiwan Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) This just breaking: Another Malaysian Airline plane crashes, this time in Ukraine. Could have been shot down, but separatist rebels are denying any responsibility. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/17/malaysia-airlines-jet-reportedly-crashes-in-ukraine/ http://www.kpho.com/story/26044289/official-malaysian-plane-shot-down-over-ukraine Edited July 17, 2014 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 both sides blaming the other. popcorn is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 rule #1 for pilots.....do not plan your route over contested borders and hot zones Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 rule #1 for pilots.....do not plan your route over contested borders and hot zones Wash When I flew to china my tv screen had a channel with a world map, looking at it was like that's strange why are we flying so far into Russia, yea it was to go around North Korea........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 At least they know where this ones at ! <dontknow> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 This one went down from a surface to air missile... Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) This one went down from a surface to air missile... Not good. Gotta wait to see the data/evidence. Photos thus far have not shown any smoke trail from the said "missile". I've also noticed that the fragments/pieces shown so far on TV/CNN/Fox does not show fragmentation type damage typical of a proximity burst. Probably still too early to call one way or the other. Edited July 17, 2014 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Surprised their not saying an assault rifle was used Edited July 17, 2014 by shepp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Already the theory is the missile was meant for Putin's aircraft, which was on a similar course about 1/2 hour behind the Malaysian airliner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Already the theory is the missile was meant for Putin's aircraft, which was on a similar course about 1/2 hour behind the Malaysian airliner. OH BOY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigP623 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Well this muddys the waters I saw this earlier but cannot confirm what source it came from, just a local news page posted it on Facebook with no source. I did a little searching and no major sources are reporting this. "But at the same time as the Malaysian Airlines jetliner went down, Radio Free Europe reported, Ukrainian rebel leader Igor Strelkov announced on Russian social networking site VKontakte that a Ukrainian transport plane had been shot down: "In the vicinity of Torez, we just downed a plane, an AN-26. ... We have issued warnings not to fly in our airspace. We have video confirming. The bird fell on a waste heap. Residential areas were not hit. Civilians were not injured." Strelkov linked to two videos, reportedly of the downed airplane. After news broke that the Malaysian Airlines plane had gone down, he deleted the post about the AN-26." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Well this muddys the waters I saw this earlier but cannot confirm what source it came from, just a local news page posted it on Facebook with no source. I did a little searching and no major sources are reporting this. "But at the same time as the Malaysian Airlines jetliner went down, Radio Free Europe reported, Ukrainian rebel leader Igor Strelkov announced on Russian social networking site VKontakte that a Ukrainian transport plane had been shot down: "In the vicinity of Torez, we just downed a plane, an AN-26. ... We have issued warnings not to fly in our airspace. We have video confirming. The bird fell on a waste heap. Residential areas were not hit. Civilians were not injured." Strelkov linked to two videos, reportedly of the downed airplane. After news broke that the Malaysian Airlines plane had gone down, he deleted the post about the AN-26." Airplane identification fail. How can you mistake a 777 for an AN26 Boeing 777 AN-26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 All the corresponding features are there, two engines, wings, and a long cylindrical fuselage. LoL Silly Russians, trix are for kids! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Lol...that's like comparing a Mini with a Ford Excursion and calling them the same thing because they have 4 wheels and have the same shape..... <laughs> <lmao> Edited July 18, 2014 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 That God welcomes all those who lost thier lives into heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Lol...that's like comparing a Mini with a Ford Excursion and calling them the same thing because they have 4 wheels and have the same shape..... <laughs> <lmao> Hey trust me vodka makes you see some crazy poop :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 When they're both side by side at 26,000 feet AGL, you point you the 777 to me. Is it the one on the left, or... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) I would have ed take the plane out with his 1/4 moa rifle and then owl could recon the crash site with his team. Transam would be directing the op from naval comand and gnat would run the psyops and media campaign. Edited July 18, 2014 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Lol...that's like comparing a Mini with a Ford Excursion and calling them the same thing because they have 4 wheels and have the same shape..... <laughs> <lmao> Hey Keep my ford excursion out of this!! <lmao> Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) When they're both side by side at 26,000 feet AGL, you point you the 777 to me. Is it the one on the left, or... ? IF they are side by side at 26,000 feet (or even 33,000 feet), the AN-26 would still be half (wingspan ~95ft vs ~200 ft) the size of the 777. Having them side by side makes it easy! Same goes for the mini vs excursion at 26,000 ft. <lmao> <laughs> just giving Tom his daily dose of cråp. :hethan: Edited July 18, 2014 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Hey Keep my ford excursion out of this!! <lmao> Wash My Nissan NV3500 bus..... er......urban assault vehicle can eat your Excursion for breakfast. <laughs> Edited July 18, 2014 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 My Nissan NV3500 bus..... er......urban assault vehicle can eat your Excursion for breakfast. <laughs> Shibi I can put your lil bus inside my excursion :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Sooo... About that Malaysian airliner.... *pointed look at derailers* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) "We thought it was an AN-26, so we are justified," is just as valid an excuse for a bad shoot as any other for shooting the wrong target. Ironically, a couple of days ago, I just read a crappy article titled "Documented CIA Assasination Attempts: Hits & Misses". The USA and the West are not above removing national leaders that prove to be thorny in their side. EDIT: Oh yeah...looks like Malaysian Airways is the new Korean Air Lines. Edited July 18, 2014 by planeflyer21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 "We have just shot down a plane," says a man the SBU identified as Igor Bezler, a Russian military intelligence officer and leading commander of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic. I called it, Shibi... :fawkdance: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/18/smoking-gun-intercepted-calls-point-finger-in-jet-downing-at-russian/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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