Stock question

[D.R.D.]

If I use a  VLTOR 6 Position Carbine Buffer Tube and a collapsible M4 stock, then later wish to change to a PRS or Luth-AR stock, can I use the same tube?  What adjustments would I need to make?

 

Thanks

[shibiwan]

If I use a  VLTOR 6 Position Carbine Buffer Tube and a collapsible M4 stock, then later wish to change to a PRS or Luth-AR stock, can I use the same tube?  What adjustments would I need to make?

 

Thanks

 

No, the carbine buffer tube is not compatible with either the PRS or the Luth-AR stock. You'll need to change out your entire buffer tube assembly (i.e. including buffer and spring) to a rifle length setup.

[D.R.D.]

Thanks

[FaRKle!]

If you want to go to a PRS-type stock check out the LMT DMR stock. It's essentially a PRS that's compatible with a mil-spec (DMR556) 6-position receiver extension or AR-10 (DMR308) receiver extension.

Edited August 29, 2014 by FaRKle!

[98Z5V]

^^^  That's some sneaky $hit, right there!  Farkle, when the hell did you find out about that thing, and when did it come out?! 

[shibiwan]

Nice option for a carbine tube, Farkle! I learned something new today. :)

[FaRKle!]

^^^  That's some sneaky $hit, right there!  Farkle, when the hell did you find out about that thing, and when did it come out?!

Debuted at Shot Show this year and was released beginning of summer. May IIRC. This post on M4C has some good pics of the .308 version on different receiver extensions.

Edited August 29, 2014 by FaRKle!

[Robocop1051]

That's pretty sweet. Magpul is such a boat anchor. I'm glad more quality is coming from other companies. I'm surprised MFT hasn't made a similar stock yet.

[shibiwan]

That's pretty sweet. Magpul is such a boat anchor. I'm glad more quality is coming from other companies. I'm surprised MFT hasn't made a similar stock yet.

 

I really like the MFT walking stick stock (i.e. minimalist). It made a great hook  that could be used for other purposes in a pinch too!

[D.R.D.]

Nice...and expensive!  Is the cheek piece wider than the PRS?

[FaRKle!]

Nice...and expensive!  Is the cheek piece wider than the PRS?

 

Yes. The LMT cheek piece is more similar to that of a LMT SOPMOD stock while the PRS is just slightly wider than the stock itself.

[george_995]

Is expensive, but when comparing to the prs it's not that much more when you buy just the lmt stock and not the kit. $289 for the 308 stock.

 

I like it, my 308 runs so damn good with the current a2 extension w/ heavy buffer and adj. GB, I have a hard time considering buying a collapsible stock system to take its place. :hethan:

[blue109]

agree. I only have one carbine extension left. A1 stocks are a perfect length for me.

[Rsquared]

I use a UBR stock on my beater 16" 10 carbine. That thing seems to have the perfect balance for the overall weight. But that's probably just me.

[D.R.D.]

If I put a carbine stock with a heavy carbine buffer on, then want to switch to something like a PRS, what do I need to add to the rifle buffer tube to run the carbine length buffer?

[98Z5V]

If I put a carbine stock with a heavy carbine buffer on, then want to switch to something like a PRS, what do I need to add to the rifle buffer tube to run the carbine length buffer?

 

On a .308, or AR-15?

 

If it's on the AR-15, they make a spacer that goes into the rifle receiver extension, that allows you to run a carbine buffer in it.

 

If it's on the .308, you're $hit out of luck.

 

You'd need to make a spacer that's the exact same length difference, between the .308 carbine buffer and the .308 rifle buffer.

[edgecrusher]

If I put a carbine stock with a heavy carbine buffer on, then want to switch to something like a PRS, what do I need to add to the rifle buffer tube to run the carbine length buffer?

Start building another rifle?

[D.R.D.]

oh, I see.  I'd heard about that AR15 spacer and thought it worked the same for .308

No worries, Thanks

[98Z5V]

AR15 rifle buffer = 5.900"
AR15 carbine buffer = 3.250"
spacer is 2.650" long for these, to run a carbine buffer in a rifle-length receiver extension.

DPMS 308 rifle buffer  = 5.200"
DPMS 308 carbine buffer = Have to have someone measure their Slash CAR-10 buffer, or DPMS 308 Carbine Buffer to get this info.  Subtract it from the 5.200" of a 308 rifle buffer length to get the length of spacer you'd need to make.

 

***Do not use the Armalite AR-10 Carbine buffer length, or information.  Armalite uses a longer carbine receiver extension on their AR-10s, and they use AR-15-length carbine buffers.***

 

 

ADDED:  DPMS Specs on their LR308 Rifle and Carbine Buffers - double check these numbers and test-fit, but verify numbers!...

 

• Rifle and carbine buffers for DPMS .308 style rifles
• Standard rifle buffer specs: length 5.285", weight 5.4112oz
• Carbine buffer specs: length 2.485", weight 3.808oz

Edited August 31, 2014 by 98Z5V

[sketch]

Slash car 10 buffer is 2.590/5.50z if I measured right?