American sniper

[98Z5V]

A golden rule in life is that; what goes around comes around....

 

 

 

...I've found that; on an individual basis with every day behavior your actions get back to you within 2 weeks more then 90% of the time. The scale goes up from there.

 

I've got some bad $hit coming my way, then.  Your scale is off, too - it's definitely not within 2 weeks.  I've probably got years and years of this $hit built up by now.

 

Should I not leave the house?...

[Zebra644]

OK, we will put in exceptions to man law for those with whom cant and by moral or religious code can't or wont.  ^-^

[edgecrusher]

OK, we will put in exceptions to man law for those with whom cant and by moral or religious code can't or wont. ^-^

Kinder gentler pussification bullshit. I'll do it for them. Exception is the medical one only.

[planeflyer21]

Wait...are pipes okay?

 

What if it is a tomahawk war pipe?

[Magwa]

Thanks for having a drink for me I miss my Rum and coke!!!!!!

[Cali_Ed]

Never to late maduce get a good top shelf cognac

[Microgunner]

Never to late maduce get a good top shelf cognac

Nope, he can't go in the liquor store, all the women are tattooed.

[Sisco]

Saw the movie tonight. Powerful stuff even after the Hollywood massage job. Now I am raising a glass of Jamisons Irish Whiskey to Chris Kyle and all his Brothers in Arms in harms way.

[Zebra644]

Wait...are pipes okay?

 

What if it is a tomahawk war pipe?

 

Then you get drinks bought for you.

[Madhouse]

I gotta wait until I finish the book first.  I always like to read it before I see the hollyweird representation.

[Zebra644]

Screw that karma BS.

Us killing the shiit outta them is the karma they've earned.

We're just the lucky ones with enough muscle to deliver their fate.

Killing mooselimbs should be considered a privilege to be celebrated.

 

+1

[planeflyer21]

If it is karma, then we need to go back to long, LONG before the United States was a wet dream of puritans and European capitalists.

 

Back to when jihad started with the invasions across southern Asia into India, across North Africa, up into middle Asia, and across southern Europe.

 

I hate to say I agree with the former KGB chief but Putin had it correct:  they are cock roaches that need to be exterminated.

[ponce]

Good book, good movie.

[blue109]

The American Sniper."

This is why America will remain strong. We take care of our own as well as others who may not deserve taking care of. I just wanted to share with you all that out of a horrible tragedy we were blessed by so many people.

Chris Kyle was Derek's teammate through 10 years of training and battle. They both suffer/suffered from PTSD to some extent and took great care of each other because of it.

2006 in Ramadi was horrible for young men that never had any more aggressive physical contact with another human than on a Texas football field.

They lost many friends. Chris became the armed services number #1 sniper of all time. Not something he was happy about, other than the fact that in so doing, he saved a lot of American lives.

Three years ago, his wife Taya asked him to leave the SEAL teams as he had a huge bounty on his head by Al Qaeda. He did and wrote the book "The American Sniper." 100% of the proceeds from the book went to two of the SEAL families who had lost their sons in Iraq .

That was the kind of guy Chris was. He formed a company in Dallas to train military, police and I think firemen as far as protecting themselves in difficult situations. He also formed a foundation to work with military people suffering from PTSD. Chris was a giver not a taker.

He, along with a friend and neighbor, Chad Littlefield, were murdered trying to help a young man that had served six months in Iraq and claimed to have PTSD.

Now I need to tell you about all of the blessings.

Southwest Airlines flew in any SEAL and their family from any airport they flew into

...free of charge.

The employees donated buddy passes and one lady worked for four days without much of a break to see that it happened.

Volunteers were at both airports in Dallas to drive them to the hotel.

The Marriott Hotel reduced their rates to $45 a night and cleared the hotel for only SEALs and family.

The Midlothian , TX Police Department paid the $45 a night for each room. I would guess there were about 200 people staying at the hotel, 100 of them were SEALs. Two large buses were chartered (an unknown donor paid the bill) to transport people to the different events and they also had a few rental cars (donated). The police and secret service were on duty 24 hours during the stay at our hotel.

At the Kyle house, the Texas DPS parked a large motor home in front to block the view from reporters. It remained there the entire five days for the SEALs to congregate in and all to use the restroom so as not to have to go in the house. Taya, their two small children and both sets of parents were staying in the home.

Only a hand full of SEALs went into the home as they had different duties and meetings were held sometimes on a hourly basis. It was a huge coordination of many different events and security. Derek was assigned to be a Pall Bearer, to escort Chris' body when it was transferred from the Midlothian Funeral Home to the Arlington Funeral Home, and to be with Taya. A tough job.

Taya seldom came out of her bedroom. The house was full with people from the church and other family members that would come each day to help. I spent one morning in a bedroom with Chris’ mom and the next morning with Chad Littlefield's parents (the other man murdered with Chris). A tough job.

George W Bush and his wife Laura met and talked to everyone on the Seal Team one on one. They went behind closed doors with Taya for quite a while. They had prayer with us all. You can tell when people were sincere and caring.

Nolan Ryan sent his cooking team, a huge grill and lots of steaks, chicken and hamburgers. They set up in the front yard and fed people all day long including the 200 SEALs and their families. The next day a local BBQ restaurant set up a buffet in front of the house and fed all once again. Food was plentiful and all were taken care of. The family's church kept those inside the house well fed.

Jerry Jones, the man everyone loves to hate, was a rock star. He made sure that we all were taken care of. His wife and he were just making sure everyone was taken care of….Class... He donated the use of Cowboy Stadium for the services as it was determined that so many wanted to attend.

The charter buses transported us to the stadium on Monday at 10:30 am. Every car, bus, motorcycle was searched with bomb dogs and police. I am not sure if kooks were making threats trying to make a name for themselves or if so many SEALs in one place was a security risk, I don't know. We willingly obliged. No purses went into the stadium!

We were taken to The Legends room high up and a large buffet was available. That was for about 300 people. We were growing.

A Medal of Honor recipient was there, lots of secret service and police and Sarah Palin and her husband. She looked nice, this was a very formal military service.

The service started at 1:00 pm and when we were escorted onto the field I was shocked. We heard that about 10,000 people had come to attend also. They were seated in the stadium seats behind us. It was a beautiful and emotional service.

The Bagpipe and drum corps were wonderful and the Texas A&M men's choir stood through the entire service and sang right at the end. We were all in tears.

The next day was the 200-mile procession from Midlothian , TX to Austin for burial. It was a cold, drizzly, windy day, but the people were out. We had dozens of police motorcycles riders, freedom riders, five chartered buses and lots of cars. You had to have a pass to be in the procession and still it was huge. Two helicopters circled the procession with snipers sitting out the side door for protection. It was the longest funeral procession ever in the state of Texas . People were everywhere. The entire route was shut down ahead of us, the people were lined up on the side of the road the entire way. Firemen were down on one knee, police officers were holding their hats over their hearts, children waving flags, veterans saluting as we went by. Every bridge had fire trucks with large flags displayed from their tall ladders, people all along the entire 200 miles were standing in the cold weather. It was so heartwarming. Taya rode in the hearse with Chris' body so Derek rode the route with us. I was so grateful to have that time with him.

The service was at Texas National Cemetery . Very few are buried there and you have to apply to get in. It is like people from the Civil War, Medal of Honor winners, a few from the Alamo and all the historical people of Texas . It was a nice service and the Freedom Riders surrounded the outside of the entire cemetery to keep the crazy church people from Kansas that protest at military funerals away from us.

Each SEAL put his Trident (metal SEAL badge) on the top of Chris' casket, one at a time. A lot hit it in with one blow. Derek was the only one to take four taps to put his in and it was almost like he was caressing it as he did it. Another tearful moment.

After the service Governor Rick Perry and his wife, Anita, invited us to the governor's mansion. She stood at the door, greeted each of us individually, and gave each of the SEALs a coin of Texas . She was a sincere, compassionate, and gracious hostess.

We were able to tour the ground floor and then went into the garden for beverages and BBQ. So many of the Seal team guys said that after they get out they are moving to Texas . They remarked that they had never felt so much love and hospitality. The charter buses then took the guys to the airport to catch their returning flights. Derek just now called and after a 20 hours flight he is back in his spot, in a dangerous land on the other side of the world, protecting America .

We just wanted to share with you, the events of a quite emotional, but blessed week.

Punch-line:

To this day, no one in the White House has ever acknowledged Chris Kyle!

However, the President can call some sport person and congratulate him on announcing to the world that he is gay.

[Sisco]

^^^Beautiful. Only thing to add: Michael Moore, you are a sick little loser.

[shepp]

^^^Beautiful. Only thing to add: Michael Moore, you are a sick little loser.

To quote a SEAL " he looks like he's sweating crisco all the time"

[planeflyer21]

He's a douche but I know where Michael Moore got his idea that snipers suck.  That's what was rolling through the ranks as the U.S. advanced across France, being picked off by German snipers.

 

Eisenhower gave a direct standing order:  all enemy snipers found will be hanged on capture.

 

Moore just fails to realize the U.S. has had snipers since the Revolution.

 

And that they do save American lives.

[shepp]

He's a douche but I know where Michael Moore got his idea that snipers suck. That's what was rolling through the ranks as the U.S. advanced across France, being picked off by German snipers.

Eisenhower gave a direct standing order: all enemy snipers found will be hanged on capture.

Moore just fails to realize the U.S. has had snipers since the Revolution.

And that they do save American lives.

Agreed it's the price you pay, his uncle or grandpa (seen it printed both ways) woulda shot that sniper in the back first chance he had too, but he don't think like that, guns kill people in his head....... Sucks but if it's even true his family member died groriously protecting the word from evil somthing Moore will never do

[liber]

I read the book and thought it was awesome. I don't read very many books but was fascinated to read it, and you can get them on the used book networks for almost nothing. That is true for American Gun, which is a better book to have as a firearms enthusiast.

 

I was very let down by the movie, while I thought it was ok, I just didn't get the impact as I do from top notch films. I think Kyle deserved better. I went to see it with several friends. 2 others felt the same as me, they were disappointed in the movie given the hype for it also.

 

Maybe I was expecting too much after liking the book as much as I did, but the movie didn't do it for me. I hate to say I'm glad to see his wife gain from the movie, because I felt Ventura was a moron for suing her to begin with. You would expect that from a wrestler I 'spose, they are posers in their own right...but he had to sue Kyle's widow? In that regard, her and the kids will have be taken care of with the movie royalties I would think. For that, Eastwood is a genius.  <thumbsup>

 

I know I'm in the minority most likely...just saying... :-[

[liber]

To quote a SEAL " he looks like he's sweating crisco all the time"

 

That's funny...dare I say I was thinking Moore would make a great target with a donut around his mouth with an X in the center, but my rifle club doesn't allow silhouette targets.  <dontknow>

 

I wonder if Moore is secretly married to FeinFrankenStein ?

Edited January 22, 2015 by liber

[slugger43]

Wait, club would probably OK a Moore target.  Looks more like a circle than a silhouette target.....

[liber]

Wait, club would probably OK a Moore target.  Looks more like a circle than a silhouette target.....

 

LOL...maybe I should run it by them again in that context. Actually I hadn't asked about Moore, I asked about some of the lovely senate CA has voted for in the past. It wasn't me, I can assure you of that, but CA truly owe's the nation an apology for the ignorance of the population, most who came here from other states to begin with. :(

 

Anyway, not to derail this thread on a luke warm movie for a great story.  ::)

[Magwa]

If it was not so flat and had salmon I would live in Texas they showed their true class in the situation Idaho is much the same and it is a bigger state you just have to pound it out flat to see it.... going to see the movie tomorrow night I am going without reading any hype just want to see his story as told by the director and I wish his wife and his children all the very best in their future....

[shepp]

I read the book and thought it was awesome. I don't read very many books but was fascinated to read it, and you can get them on the used book networks for almost nothing. That is true for American Gun, which is a better book to have as a firearms enthusiast.

I was very let down by the movie, while I thought it was ok, I just didn't get the impact as I do from top notch films. I think Kyle deserved better. I went to see it with several friends. 2 others felt the same as me, they were disappointed in the movie given the hype for it also.

Maybe I was expecting too much after liking the book as much as I did, but the movie didn't do it for me. I hate to say I'm glad to see his wife gain from the movie, because I felt Ventura was a moron for suing her to begin with. You would expect that from a wrestler I 'spose, they are posers in their own right...but he had to sue Kyle's widow? In that regard, her and the kids will have be taken care of with the movie royalties I would think. For that, Eastwood is a genius. <thumbsup>

I know I'm in the minority most likely...just saying... :-[

I know what your saying I felt the same about lone survivor, only way that movie could do the actual story justice was to be 2.5-3 hours long

[liber]

I know what your saying I felt the same about lone survivor, only way that movie could do the actual story justice was to be 2.5-3 hours long

In Kyle's case/story, I knew it before he died and had watched him on many interviews before he died. I have nothing but respect for him, he truly made huge sacrifices for our country, and at the expense of not being able to spend much time with his family...that is a sad but true aspect of that job, but Kyle had the right outlook for that job without question.

Even when I watched him being interviewed by O'Reilly on Fox, O'Reilly tried to nail Kyle on the wall by making him look like he was only good at being a sniper, and Kyle was staunch of what he felt was right and for every shot he took over there. The movie did convey that when he's discussing that with Administration. In the book there's a strong understanding of GOD, Country and family. I didn't get that in the movie.

I figured the chapter about Scruffy Face wouldn't be added to the movie, but that missed on a big piece of Kyle for me, how he would stand up for his brothers no matter. All of his interviews, in the book, etc...all depict him as being a genuine, honest, caring person. Just that he was a sniper by career. I always got the impression if Kyle walked into a bar, he made a presence, and in the movie he wasn't that way. In the book he's always getting in fights and the Navy is always bailing him out. Also, in the book and his interviews, "Pickles" had a huge impact that would follow him for most of the time he served...he was also at the wake with Scruffy Face at the bar. The movie lost a lot of the impact he had on Kyle. I have heard folks say that Kyle over-exaggerated situations in the book, that I don't know for sure, but all the interviews I've seen of him he always seemed like an honest and genuine person. I didn't get the impression he exaggerated on too much in life, he was always pretty humble.

I know what you're saying about how much time a movie would take to depict correctly...just that it should have been longer if that was the case here, or done in a different way to convey that. When I read through this thread yesterday it was apparent that a lot of folks like the movie, I see people raving about it all over the net, so I do feel I'm in a minority. As I said before, Kyle deserved better, IMO. And for all the hype on the last scene, I was scratching my head wondering...is this it? This is the end? I felt more like I was cheated more than I was emotional...I wondered if me and Vice President Biden had seen the same movie...