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I bought a COMPLETE LR308B rifle for $699 from IRUNGUNS.

Brand new, No assembly required, shot it last week and it does MOA five shots at 100.

At that price I could not build it.

But some people enjoy the build and take pride in it. Also I hate to say it but at 700$ I'm willing to bet your rifle isn't build of the highest quality parts.......

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But some people enjoy the build and take pride in it. Also I hate to say it but at 700$ I'm willing to bet your rifle isn't build of the highest quality parts.......

 

This is a DPMS rifle...I got one in the same deal as Lazerus.  It's a darn nice gun [actually mine is a LR308/AP4] and a steal at US$750 [plus tax and shipping of course].

 

[Apologies to the OP for taking the thread off course]  Have you looked at Aero Precision?  they seem to have lots of part kits....

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I used to be a PROFESSIONAL gunsmiter .. as in other people paid me $$ to work on their guns. With a license and everything. Did it for over a decade, till the thrill was gone.

I have built dozens of AR 15s from piles of parts and have completely disassembled DOZENS of surplus ORIGINAL MILSPEC AR 10 rifles and reassembled them for resale. Same goes for the M14 type rifles ... only make that HUNDREDS instead of dozens.

I still occasionally teach seminars on do it yourself M14 gunsmiting, and I am BIG supporter of DIY gunsmiting ... for others, not necessarily for myself. I am now officially retired, and while I do a few jobs now and then for VERY GOOD friends, and still do consulting work, I now view gunsmiting as a job rather than a joy.

At my ripe old age, my remaining time is worth more to me than saving $$$. And if I can buy a complete factory assembled new rifle, with warranty, for less than the price of the parts, then I will.

BTDT enough times that it just ain't as much fun as it once was. But for those of you who still view gunsmiting as a joy rather than a job, I say good on ya. And I will be glad to offer free advice.

YPMMV

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I used to be a PROFESSIONAL gunsmiter .. as in other people paid me $$ to work on their guns. With a license and everything. Did it for over a decade, till the thrill was gone.

I have built dozens of AR 15s from piles of parts and have completely disassembled DOZENS of surplus ORIGINAL MILSPEC AR 10 rifles and reassembled them for resale. Same goes for the M14 type rifles ... only make that HUNDREDS instead of dozens.

I still occasionally teach seminars on do it yourself M14 gunsmiting, and I am BIG supporter of DIY gunsmiting ... for others, not necessarily for myself. I am now officially retired, and while I do a few jobs now and then for VERY GOOD friends, and still do consulting work, I now view gunsmiting as a job rather than a joy.

At my ripe old age, my remaining time is worth more to me than saving $$$. And if I can buy a complete factory assembled new rifle, with warranty, for less than the price of the parts, then I will.

BTDT enough times that it just ain't as much fun as it once was. But for those of you who still view gunsmiting as a joy rather than a job, I say good on ya. And I will be glad to offer free advice.

YPMMV

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With all that puffing up about how your were a PROFESSIONAL gun smiter (what's a "gun smiter," by the way), and the offer of free advice...

 

All you did was talk about yourself, and you didn't offer any advice.  You can see what the man's question was, but you chose to talk about yourself instead of offering any advice.

 

What the hell is up with you?  Are you just here to try to drum up business for yourself?  Or, just here to talk about yourself?

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My advice is,

IF you can save money by buying a complete finished rifle for less than a parts kit,

THEN go for it.

Just buy the finished rifle and start shooting it TODAY!!

IF you want something different than the factory offering, rather than spend hours/days/weeks/months? building one from scratch, you may be better off in the short run AND in the long run by starting with a factory built rifle, and modifying from this solid foundation.

BUT,

IF you truly enjoy this type of of "hands on therapy", and if you have the skills, patience, and self discipline to wait days/weeks/months? till you can actually use your new obsession,

then you do not need any other reason than that to build from parts.

But realistically, from a practical "dollars and cents" perspective, if you consider your time worth more than a few dollars an hour, you are usually not saving any $$$. So you better enjoy the job A LOT!!

PS: I apologise if my attempt to list my experience and establish my credibility is seen as "puffing". I had no intention to start a pissing contest. Feel free to kick the new guy till he catches on to the unwritten rules of etiquette.

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PPS: is loquacious a compliment??

If so, thank you.

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I agree with ya I like building but on my 308 I too got a deal 4 years ago on a DPMS and so far I have killed 3 elk and 4 deer with it and it shoots sub MOA no inferior parts on the gun except the trigger... but I also used the money I saved to buy other parts for it with the help and suggestions of the members here so enjoy that rifle it is a good one .....no matter how you get one the bottom line it GET ONE!

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My advice is,

IF you can save money by buying a complete finished rifle for less than a parts kit,

THEN go for it.

Just buy the finished rifle and start shooting it TODAY!!

IF you want something different than the factory offering, rather than spend hours/days/weeks/months? building one from scratch, you may be better off in the short run AND in the long run by starting with a factory built rifle, and modifying from this solid foundation.

BUT,

IF you truly enjoy this type of of "hands on therapy", and if you have the skills, patience, and self discipline to wait days/weeks/months? till you can actually use your new obsession,

then you do not need any other reason than that to build from parts.

But realistically, from a practical "dollars and cents" perspective, if you consider your time worth more than a few dollars an hour, you are usually not saving any $$$. So you better enjoy the job A LOT!!

PS: I apologise if my attempt to list my experience and establish my credibility is seen as "puffing". I had no intention to start a pissing contest. Feel free to kick the new guy till he catches on to the unwritten rules of etiquette.

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PPS: is loquacious a compliment??

If so, thank you.

 

Again, all that, and didn't answer the guy's question.  He is asking about recommendations for a lower parts kit, minus trigger group - do you have any recommendations for THAT?

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Buy the complete DPMS LR308B rifle for $699 from IRUNGUNS.

Strip out the LPK.

SELL THE REST OF THE PARTS AT A PROFIT or keep them as spares....

or perhaps the start for your NEXT build?

That way, you end up with a FREE LPK,

AND probably enough extra to buy an upgraded trigger.

I am seriously considering buying another complete DPMS 16" barreled rifle for $750 just to have a spare lightweight upper. I would sell off the lower complete ( I prefer the solid A2 rifle length buffer tubes ) OR I might keep the stripped out LPK parts ... but only the AR10 specific bits. The AR15 trigger parts would not be necessary as I would get an upgraded aftermarket trigger.

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PS: I apologise if my attempt to list my experience and establish my credibility is seen as "puffing". I had no intention to start a pissing contest. Feel free to kick the new guy till he catches on to the unwritten rules of etiquette.

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PPS: is loquacious a compliment??

If so, thank you.

Some here just prefer the Shakespearean wisdom of, "Brevity is the soul of wit."

Those of us in engineering just call it "high SNR".

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As a teenager, I flunked out of engineering. Couldn't hack the calculus, and studying took me away from my other main priorities ...partying, girls, and drinking beer

But later on in life I gave up on the partying and the beer, and the girls gave up on me. I pulled it together enough to design a complete line of backpacking equipment. So even though I never got the paper, I exhibited "engineer like traits". And along the way, I learned two of the most important engineering principles;

K.I.S.S.

and

"Parts left out cost nothing and rarely break".

PS: I definitely have spent too much time writing technical docs for the IT department of a govt agency. Verbosity has become an ingrained habit. I will try to improve the fog factor of my posts.

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I really didn't consider ordering out a pile of parts already engineered and ready to be put together as "building" a rifle. But if that is what you want to call it okay have fun. For your "I wanna build my own AR rifle itch." It may be a good idea to buy a factory finished rifle off the shelf, mount up some optics read the manual and shoot it to see if you like it for your first rifle. Now, take it home and decide what you would like to change. take the rifle apart paying attention to how it fits together keeping the parts that work, buy the new trigger BCG buffer barrel etc. Put each on the rifle one part at a time go shoot for effect, if it works and looks good maybe you are ready to build from a pile of choice parts. See if that isn't real fun.

I lost money as a licensed gunsmith from 1970 thru 1975 then kind of figured it out. I was having Fun! Started making money because I starting doing good work. My #1 day job as an Engineer took control and the ATF under Clinton. caused me to turn in my FFL. I still have the itch.

This is a good place to learn and get that itch scratched,

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Again, all that, and didn't answer the guy's question.  He is asking about recommendations for a lower parts kit, minus trigger group - do you have any recommendations for THAT?

Buy the complete DPMS LR308B rifle for $699 from IRUNGUNS.

Strip out the LPK.

SELL THE REST OF THE PARTS AT A PROFIT or keep them as spares....

or perhaps the start for your NEXT build?

That way, you end up with a FREE LPK,

AND probably enough extra to buy an upgraded trigger.

I am seriously considering buying another complete DPMS 16" barreled rifle for $750 just to have a spare lightweight upper. I would sell off the lower complete ( I prefer the solid A2 rifle length buffer tubes ) OR I might keep the stripped out LPK parts ... but only the AR10 specific bits. The AR15 trigger parts would not be necessary as I would get an upgraded aftermarket trigger.

 

Even when directly asked, in the manner that I did - you didn't directly give a source for a "lower parts kit minus trigger."  Instead, it's the same bullschit answer of "buy a complete rifle..."  You sound like Biden and the "buy a shotgun" bullschit.

 

That really tells me one thing - you don't have a fucking clue where to direct the man to - you have no source for that type of request.

 

Most people that don't know what they're talking about usually don't say anything at all...  Not you, though...

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You might want to consider that I am in CANADA.

You probably have no fucking clue where to source parts in my country. I thought this site was for EVERYONE ... world wide ...not just arrogant, ethnocentric ugly americans.

And my advice is still valid in both our countries.

Maybe you need to stop and get a sandwich??

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You might want to consider that I am in CANADA.

You probably have no fucking clue where to source parts in my country.

 

Apparently, you live there, and you have no fucking clue, either...  <lmao>

 

If you couldn't contribute to the man's dilemna, then why'd you open your mouth in the first place?...  <dontknow>

 

Because you had to talk about yourself - that's why.  It's pathetic, really...  :binkybaby: <laughs>

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I used to be a PROFESSIONAL gunsmiter .. as in other people paid me $$ to work on their guns. With a license and everything. Did it for over a decade, till the thrill was gone.

 And I will be glad to offer free advice.

YPMMV

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Need some PROFESSIONAL gunsmiter advice in this thread right here, Superhero.  See if you can help our buddy out.  It's not an Original Armalite AR10, but you ARE a PROFESSIONAL gunsmiter, and other people paid you $$ to work on their guns.  with license and everything.  And you did it for over a decade.  And, you're glad to offer free advice...

 

Hit this thread and help him out. 

 

Live up to your word. <thumbsup>

 

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