mordak6actual Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Hi, New guy in enemy territory (California, or DPROK as I prefer). Built a .308 AR off of a MATEN receiver set, wish they came together as trouble-free as AR-15s. Long time lurker first time poster. Just here to soak up information and get advice. Not new to .308 or even ARs (own a M1A and a couple AR-15s), but .308 ARs are another ball of wax. I like my .308 AR but getting it to work right has been a gigantic headache from day one, it has certainly given me pause about building them versus just buying a factory .308 AR for my next one. Edited July 31, 2015 by mordak6actual
Robocop1051 Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Welcome, from the 916. If you're still having issues, lay them down on us. Depending on your local, we have a huge west coast presence, we should be able to help.
washguy Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Hi Mord ...Welcome aboard! You have a great upper/lower combo....whats the problemo? :) Wash
planeflyer21 Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Welcome from AZ, the free side of the Colorado river!
mordak6actual Posted July 31, 2015 Author Report Posted July 31, 2015 Thanks for the awesome welcome guys. ^-^ Not sure what the etiquette is about posting issues (if they should go in this topic or a dedicated topic in a different forum), but I'll list my build here and probably also in the MATEN forum. MATEN upper/lower matched receiver set RA-SEL-308-16 Rainier Arms Select .308 16" 416R Black Stainless Barrel - DPMS Pattern RF-M-GasTube Radical Firearms Stainless Steel Gas Tube - Mid Length 308-BCG-NiB Radical Firearms Complete Nickel Boron Bolt Carrier Group for .308 with WMD Coating 05-199 ALG Defense Combat Trigger - ACT RF308CARB Radical Firearms .308 Carbine Buffer - 3.8oz DP308-CS-10A DPMS .308 Carbine Buffer Spring - 11.5 Inch LR-01 Black Rain Ordnance Buffer Retaining Pin LR-02 Black Rain Ordnance Buffer Retainer Spring SP0011510031 Seekins Precision Low Profile Adjustable Gas Block .750 Stock is a Magpul UBR. Forearm is a 14" Parallax Tactical fore-end, and the barrel device is a Griffin Armament 7.62 Flashcomp. Basically, right now, the rifle is a bolt-action. <lmao>
blue109 Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Well, your first problem is a lack of pictures. We do so enjoy our rifle porn. You can start a gun introduction thread over in the manufacturers forum.
washguy Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Mord sounds like you have the right buffer and buffer spring..and i guess you have the right buffer tube? So, make sure your gas block is on correctly over the gas port....open the adj gas block all the way...you gotta lube the heck out of the bcg on a new rifle as it will be tight. shotgun the rifle muzzle pointed down...drop in the bcg and see if the bcg almost goes into battery and not hanging up . So have it lubed put in a single round in the mag...fire the rifle and function check to see if the bolt catch locks it back? :) Wash Oh dont use cheap crap steel cased ammo to make sure your gas block is on correct....block chamber and either blow compressed air down from the muzzle or lip it and give it a blow to see if the air is making it down the gas tube Edited July 31, 2015 by washguy
Rsquared Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Welcome aboard mordak. Stay patient, and we'll get you fixed up before you know it.
Malig8r Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Welcome to the forum from Washington. Didn't they outlaw everything but super soakers in Kalifornia?
mordak6actual Posted July 31, 2015 Author Report Posted July 31, 2015 Welcome to the forum from Washington. Didn't they outlaw everything but super soakers in Kalifornia? LOL. I think they only permit semi-harsh language and vague threats now. Supersoakers got banned when it was discovered you could overpressure them and potentially blow up.
mordak6actual Posted July 31, 2015 Author Report Posted July 31, 2015 Well the UBR comes with its own receiver extension ("buffer tube") which should be carbine length from what I understand (worked on my AR-15, used a carbine length spring and all has been well). I cracked the adj. gas block all the way open, lubed the heck out of the bolt, the carrier, and the charging handle. I've done all kinds of crazy things, removed the buffer detent and spring, tried different mags (Lancer L7 and Magpul .308 Pmags), and I only ever feed brass cased ammo through it (combination of Freedom, Aussie surplus and Prvi Partizan so far). I knew I was going to have problems with this gun. At round #8, my ejector pin walked out of the gun mid-cycle and bent against the edge of the BCG from lack of pressure from the ejector springs. I attributed some of the early issues to lube but that bent pin was the start of the craziness. Meanwhile I've now gone through a second bolt/bolt carrier group, tried different mags, lube, etc. Always used the full power ALG spring that came with my trigger, and not lightweight spring. I have to push the bolt to get it into battery on the first shot (load from locked bolt), and every shot thereafter otherwise I get light primer strikes. Hence why I joke I have a bolt action AR. Mord sounds like you have the right buffer and buffer spring..and i guess you have the right buffer tube? So, make sure your gas block is on correctly over the gas port....open the adj gas block all the way...you gotta lube the heck out of the bcg on a new rifle as it will be tight. shotgun the rifle muzzle pointed down...drop in the bcg and see if the bcg almost goes into battery and not hanging up . So have it lubed put in a single round in the mag...fire the rifle and function check to see if the bolt catch locks it back? :) Wash Oh dont use cheap crap steel cased ammo to make sure your gas block is on correct....block chamber and either blow compressed air down from the muzzle or lip it and give it a blow to see if the air is making it down the gas tube
GRA Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 Welcome from Gulf Coast Texas. Enjoy the forum !!! <thumbsup>
Robocop1051 Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 Which buffer and buffer spring are you using? I personally suggest an AR10 or CS Flat Wire spring. Possibly a heavier buffer too.
98Z5V Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 Welcome, from the 916. If you're still having issues, lay them down on us. Depending on your local, we have a huge west coast ARIZONA presence, we should be able to help. I just felt a huge need to correct that statement. Everybody else welcomed the guy, and is working on the problem, so that's all I really have to add right now. Appreciate the opener, Rob. :)) <thumbsup>
suzukiray Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 Welcome from the 714 mordak. Which part of this communist state do you live in? Ray.
mordak6actual Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Posted August 5, 2015 Welcome from the 714 mordak. Which part of this communist state do you live in? Ray. Zombieland Central: South Bay/beach communities, 310.
mordak6actual Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Posted August 5, 2015 Which buffer and buffer spring are you using? I personally suggest an AR10 or CS Flat Wire spring. Possibly a heavier buffer too. Well, I looked into a heavier buffer, the DPMS buffer/spring I have is labeled for .308. 3.8 oz. seems awfully light for a carbine buffer for .308 so I ordered the spring/buffer combo from Heavybuffers.com in hopes of fixing my issues.
Robocop1051 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 They're a good operation. I'll bet that works out in more ways than one for you.
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