survivalshop Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Looks like because of the " Chronic Wasting Disease ", Virginia has banned any Deer Urine & other bodily fluids , even from Deer you have Harvested . No out of state Urine , not even possession of it , is permitted . I don't hunt or live in VA. You think it will help ? I use Doe Urine for when I piss from my tree stand & pour a little over it , doesn't seem to bother the Deer , they walk right by it & over it with out missing a beat . I've had Bucks , make scrapes & piss on it them selfs , quite a funny thing to see . Other wise I have no use for sents of any kind . Edited October 21, 2015 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 This is ridiculous. Where are the deer suppose to pee? Do they have to hold it until they hit the WV border? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I hope that crap don't get to Texas, my Chihuahua gets her daily high from sticking her nose in the yellow spots outside our yard every morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I think it's a piss poor attempt no pun. They've decimated the deer population here in Wisconsin with their knee jerk reaction to chronic wasting, no one sees the deer they used to and the virus is still here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Missouri has had a few cases in central and northern regions. So far no knee jerk reactions like this. Mostly making the hunters aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 IIRC there is a belief that CRD originated from deer going to cattle stock yards and eating the ground up diseased cattle, the same cause for "mad cow" disease.Either way, something isn't right in our food supplies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 IIRC there is a belief that CRD originated from deer going to cattle stock yards and eating the ground up diseased cattle, the same cause for "mad cow" disease.Either way, something isn't right in our food supplies.that was the reason the ban baiting in the centeral/southern part of the state figured it would be spread by deer pooping or urinating around bait piles spreading it more.From what I understand is Wisconsin had had the most radical reaction to it and like I said our deer population, people who farmed deer (elk, white tail and others in the deer family) took a huge hit from it. A friend of a friend had some trophy bucks he would sell semen to ranches to breed more throphy bucks, they literally became worthless over night with the restriction put on the transportation of animals or animal parts. Same with an elk farmer at the farmers market, he slaughtered all his elk because that was the only way to get anywhere near his investment back on them. DNR= do nothing right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 farming deer ,elk or whatever big game animal needs to be outlawed period if you want elk or deer go hunting the damn things escape and spread disease to the healthy herds or worse breed after they escape it is the worst thing I have even seen around here and it is about to be ended in Idaho ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 oh deer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 We've seen some of this disease here in Iowa and eastern Nebraska but we already had so many stupid rules about bait and lure that they couldn't add much. Still have a dozen that walk through my backyard every night, counted 18 one time. I come at them waving my arms and yelling but they just keep about 15-20 feet away and wait for me to tire and go back inside then it's back to the smorgasborg of my landscaping :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malig8r Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 JT, my buddy was having a similar problem until he took out his airsoft Armalite AR15 and pelted them with the biodegradable bbs. Pretty effective deterrent from what I hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 so is a paint ball gun OK here is how it works my 88 year old mom loves her flowers and so do the deer we have so many we do not fertalize the yard it is full of deer poop so she says mark them suckers and so we get a paint ball gun shoot the ones eating her flowers with a orange florescent ball or two and then tell all the folks living near by that these are the ones need killing first when season starts been working pretty well ... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Our problem is we now have a "town" heard. They never leave the city limits. The city spends stupid money hiring professionals to bow hunt them but they only get a few so the heard grows. I've shot them with BB guns at various power levels but they just don't give a schit, they always come back. The deer crap makes good fertilizer but I get tired of moving it all to the flower beds before I mow. I've tried repellents but they love the pepper based stuff, actually eating the plants that very night after being sprayed. There is some smelly stuff that seems to work for s few days but it makes me gag when I go outside , repels everything! Electric fence is against a city ordinance. My only real option is a tall fence but but I can buy 6 308AR's for what the materials alone would cost me...stupid fuk'n town deer........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Our problem is we now have a "town" heard. They never leave the city limits. The city spends stupid money hiring professionals to bow hunt them but they only get a few so the heard grows. I've shot them with BB guns at various power levels but they just don't give a schit, they always come back. The deer crap makes good fertilizer but I get tired of moving it all to the flower beds before I mow. I've tried repellents but they love the pepper based stuff, actually eating the plants that very night after being sprayed. There is some smelly stuff that seems to work for s few days but it makes me gag when I go outside , repels everything! Electric fence is against a city ordinance. My only real option is a tall fence but but I can buy 6 308AR's for what the materials alone would cost me...stupid fuk'n town deer........Give us two hours with our 308 AR's. Might be a few holes in buildings though.......Maybe evacuate the town while we are at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 farming deer ,elk or whatever big game animal needs to be outlawed period if you want elk or deer go hunting the damn things escape and spread disease to the healthy herds or worse breed after they escape it is the worst thing I have even seen around here and it is about to be ended in Idaho !Deer farms are what brought it to Wisconsin from Colorado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 just another example write your reps. tell them to protect your wildlife ..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Deer are so down in my area,I am passing on hunting them this year. Also the Federal Courts are allowing the Ojibwa to night hunt on public hunting land in Northern Wisconsin this year. So that will depress the herd even more. It is not even worth going out this year. Not to mention the safety aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Deer are so down in my area,I am passing on hunting them this year. Also the Federal Courts are allowing the Ojibwa to night hunt on public hunting land in Northern Wisconsin this year. So that will depress the herd even more. It is not even worth going out this year. Not to mention the safety aspect.that's bullshit!!! i won't be coming up either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 FYI on deer lure.1934 NY native Peter Rickard introduced " Indiana buck" ,which contained no deer urine.4 states have banned deer based urine lures : Alaske,Arizona,Vermont,and Virginia.$15 million annual deer-hunting scents sales.1960 first deer - urine - based scent.Marketed by George Robbins of Robbins scents.25 oz. amount of urine output of doe per day.660,000 gal. of deer scent bought yearly by hunters.Enough to fill an olympic size pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 In addition : What $44.99 buys you : a 2 oz. bottle of Mrs. doe pee fresh doe in estrus or a 25 oz. bottle of Wild Turkey rare breed burbon.$ 4 million was the amount Buckstop lure won in a defamation lawsuit aganist TV host Fred Frost for claiming its deer - urine actually contained cow urine.Scents that ( alledgedly) attract deerBeaver castor,peanut butter,tonquin (siberian) deer musk,wood smoke,vannilla extract,sassafras,and human urine.This was from latest Outdoor Life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Wild Turkey baby!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Me likey Wild Turkey.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 OK, this year the morning of deer season, I drink some Wild Turkey, than go pee on the deer statue/decoy that the game warden puts out every year. Am I understanding all this correctly or did I miss something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 You'r on the right track brother.Just don't have any asswipe hanging out you'r rear,or you could wind up a wall mount.Just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 In addition : What $44.99 buys you : a 2 oz. bottle of Mrs. doe pee fresh doe in estrus or a 25 oz. bottle of Wild Turkey rare breed burbon.$ 4 million was the amount Buckstop lure won in a defamation lawsuit aganist TV host Fred Frost for claiming its deer - urine actually contained cow urine.Scents that ( alledgedly) attract deerBeaver castor,peanut butter,tonquin (siberian) deer musk,wood smoke,vannilla extract,sassafras,and human urine.This was from latest Outdoor Life.that's some great info! Peanut butter sounds like it would work, I use a cover scent that has a lot of vanilla in it, and I know many guys who have killed deer smoking a cowboy killer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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