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Club Shooting In Orlando


planeflyer21

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I've heard there was only one entry/exit, and going in at closing time may have caught people off guard.  What moronic licensing entity allows a bar with that huge capacity function with only one or even just two or three entrance/exit points?  Fire near the door would have gotten all of them.  That's insanity!

I don't understand cops not going in immediately, nor how even unarmed, the hundreds of patrons could not have taken him down.  Heard an acknowledged active shooter expert who has analyzed every shooting since Columbine.  He is adamant that you have to go in immediately on an active shooter.  No exceptions.  He says that while circumstances differ from case to case, time is the greatest factor.  

His point was that yes, some innocents may die when LEO goes in - SWAT or otherwise - but deaths will be fewer if intervention happens sooner.

300 unarmed patrons?   WTF?

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Just heard some f**ked up information on this shooting. The fbi and doj need turned over and shook hard, saying they are part of the "justice" department is laughable at best. I had been thinking the issues were related to a few at the top but this stuff can't happen without many players Congress needs to do their job! This crap has to stop!

 

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Why am I not shocked here.  The whole system needs purged.  It's not just politicians that need to go, and get fresh people in there. that are not corrupted.  The agencies, too.  I'm positive that there are plenty of younger agents that are ready for promotions, that have nothing to do with this massive level of shiit.

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The girl I’m seeing was just at a conference with the PD that responded to this. She was telling me every club in Miami has a unit assigned to it. The officers that were assigned to this club were running late and had to park away from the club (usually park out front) and that’s why he targeted this club.

 

also they were playing the tapes when the goat fucker called into 911 the declare his dedication to Allah and he had to repeat him self like 5 times cuz the dispatcher didn’t know wtf he was talking about lol

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1 hour ago, 98Z5V said:

Why am I not shocked here.  The whole system needs purged.  It's not just politicians that need to go, and get fresh people in there. that are not corrupted.  The agencies, too.  I'm positive that there are plenty of younger agents that are ready for promotions, that have nothing to do with this massive level of shiit.

A purge is what it will take.  I hope that the young agents could make a difference.   Unfortunately, I see the indoctrination that happens from the first day of school.  Most people don't know that they think in ways that are against our founding principles.  School is the tool by which this is accomplished. 

Public Schools are more properly called government schools.  They are dependent on government funding for existence.  Just like the Catholic school I went to as a child, Jewish schools, Muslim schools, etc..., they teach who to look to to help you make decisions.   It may be God, Yahweh, Allah or the government.  They always preach that there is an ultimate master to be looked up to when you need help.

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I see and talk to many teachers and students.  Most people are not talk to think anymore.   I believe that is the reason for the standardized testing in school being necessary for advancing grades.  They ask you a question and require that you regurgitate the answer they have given to you.

I had an English teacher tell me that she spends a significant amount of time teaching students how to write for the test.  After the test is done, she tells them to forget everything she has said because it is wrong.  Having people who are programmed to answer with the approved message makes them easy to control.  Ask Kim Jong Ill-in-the-head. 

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2 minutes ago, Armed Eye Doc said:

  Ask Kim Jong Ill-in-the-head. 

Jong Un.  Kim Jong Un is the one now.

Kim Il Sung was first.  Kim Jong Il was his son, that took over. Kim Jong Un is the current one, grandson.

I worked Korea from 1986 through my retirement in 2007.  When the shiit hits the fan, I can tell you the callsigns they'll be using on the radios, and what they mean. 

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5 minutes ago, Armed Eye Doc said:

I see and talk to many teachers and students.  Most people are not talk to think anymore.   I believe that is the reason for the standardized testing in school being necessary for advancing grades.  They ask you a question and require that you regurgitate the answer they have given to you.

I had an English teacher tell me that she spends a significant amount of time teaching students how to write for the test.  After the test is done, she tells them to forget everything she has said because it is wrong.  Having people who are programmed to answer with the approved message makes them easy to control.  Ask Kim Jong Ill-in-the-head. 

When Texas (and other states) do their reviews of what to put in textbooks we need to pay far more attention to what is being decided.  Failing to pay sufficient attention has basically all but ruined us.

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3 minutes ago, 98Z5V said:

Jong Un.  Kim Jong Un is the one now.

Kim Il Sung was first.  Kim Jong Il was his son, that took over. Kim Jong Un is the current one, grandson.

I worked Korea from 1986 through my retirement in 2007.  When the shiit hits the fan, I can tell you the callsigns they'll be using on the radios, and what they mean. 

Korea gets cold.  Damn cold.  That’s all I know about it.

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I had 4 tours in that shiithole, 10 TDYs, and over 6 years in country, total.  My most exciting deployment was fall of 1996.  Hellish conditions for a mission, and the NKs decided to crash a spy sub into the eastern coast (for real-life shiit, a real NK infiltration attempt), close to where we were deployed. We were told to hunker down and deal with it.  Let the country "subside" a little, then they'd get us out. (look that up, NK sub in 1996)

Well, fuk, the first problem was we went into a long recon mission with no available water in the area, so we packed (each) 2 x 1qt canteens, 2 x 2qt canteens, and a 12-liter water blivet inside rucks. That's alotta water, and that shiit is 8lbs per gallon!

Next issue was batteries.  Long mission requires lots of batteries, and even Lithium batts ain't light - when there's alot of them. 

We packed for 10 days on the extreme.  We were out there for 16 days, when we got pulled out.

We were giving IVs, or drinking the IV bags with MRE coolaid mixed in, before exfil...  Couldn't hit a vein on some guys... "Mix this up and drink it..."  :laffs:

Fuk that place.

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I laugh when some people jump into a conversation - about drinking IVs - and they tell you, (in perfect wife voice)

"You can't drink Lactated Ringer's Solution!!!  It'll make you SICK!!!"

Yeah?  Really?  I can tell you that you CAN drink Lactated Ringer's Solution.  Without getting sick. You save your Cherry Koolaid from your MREs, ALWAYS, just on that off-chance that you DO find yourself in that situation. Because, the cherry tastes best when mixed with that shiit...  :laffs:

I have a long story on drinking that shiit, if anyone is interested.  Without the koolaid mix. Pre-Ranger, 1990. I drank 2 x 1000ml bags after the Land Nav course, the night before a 5-mile timed run.  I was the only guy to max the Land Nav course, and I gave it my all to do it.  Tried to have the Doc IV me, and he couldn't hit a vein.  I told him to give me two bags and leave me alone.  Cut the tops off and sipped away...

Fuk the naysayers and medical professionals - they don't know the real deal...   :lmao:

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Working in the steel mill they would give us theses salty ass Chuckles. Was like a square gummy type. Working by the blast furnace it was long underware,jeans, and green flame retardant suit. That was in the summer. Hot as fuk.

Watching the steel being tapped and flowing like orange soup, was cool as fuk also.

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