commanderjjones Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I finally got my Oracle together and shot it for the first time yesterday. I had read several reviews talking about how bad the factory trigger was, so that was no surprise and I had anticipated ordering an upgrade. On the bright side and despite the crappy trigger, I was still able to pull off a 5 shot group of less than 2" at 200 yards with Federal Premium 168 grain Sierra Match King BTHP's. IMO, not too shabby for a 16" barrel and sketchy trigger. Yeah, I know you typically get what you pay for, but this is a budget build that I really do NOT want to spend $250 for a Timney (etc...), so what is a good "budget" trigger (preferably 2 stage) that won't break the bank? Looking for some options to start the shopping process. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 The ALG trigger components are really good. Not the best, but frankly, at ~$40 are the best bang for the buck when improving the stock triggers (the feel of which are something akin to dragging two bricks across each other.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanderjjones Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, mineralman55 said: .....(the feel of which are something akin to dragging two bricks across each other.) Yeah, it was pretty bad......on the verge of horrific. I was astounded that I was able to get it to group as good as I did. On a different note......it did NOT like feeding the SIerra BTHP bullets. I shot 40 rounds of cheap 147gr FMJ's with no issues. Then I shot 40 rounds of the Sierra Match Kings and had 5 or 6 misfeeds. Any thoughts on that? I wonder if polishing the feed ramp would help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 How much lube did you use? It’s possible that it was drying up after your first rounds. These rifles need to be wet until broken in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanderjjones Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, edgecrusher said: How much lube did you use? It’s possible that it was drying up after your first rounds. These rifles need to be wet until broken in No lube, other than what was there from the factory. Yeah, I'm an AR rookie. So you think that was likely to be the problem? I'm gonna clean and lube it, then take it back to the range this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBrien Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) It's not a "budget" trigger, but the LaRue MBT can regularly be found on sale for $99. I just purchased my fifth MBT, and have given a couple to friends. Even a buddy who is a Geissele freak says he'd put it up against most of Geissele's line any day of the week. Edited March 26, 2018 by COBrien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanderjjones Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, COBrien said: It's not a "budget" trigger, but the LaRue MBT can regularly be found on sale for $99. I just purchased my fifth MBT, and have given a couple to friends. Even a buddy who is a Geissele freak says he'd put it up against most of Geissele's line any day of the week. Is that a 2 stage.....or do they offer one for that price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanderjjones Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 26 minutes ago, COBrien said: It's not a "budget" trigger, but the LaRue MBT can regularly be found on sale for $99. I just purchased my fifth MBT, and have given a couple to friends. Even a buddy who is a Geissele freak says he'd put it up against most of Geissele's line any day of the week. After some reading, I just placed an order for the LaRue. Sounds like a good trigger, especially for the money. Thanks for the tip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBrien Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, commanderjjones said: Is that a 2 stage.....or do they offer one for that price? 58 minutes ago, commanderjjones said: After some reading, I just placed an order for the LaRue. Sounds like a good trigger, especially for the money. Thanks for the tip! Just for clarification (mostly for anyone reading this thread later), yes, the MBT is a 2-stage. I love it just as it comes out of the can -- with the 3.5#(ish) pull. It also comes with a 4.5#(ish) spring, which I have installed in my wife's patrol rifle. Still a clean, crisp break, just a bit more weight, suitable for a duty rifle. You're welcome. The guys around here talked me into an MBT last year, so I feel the need to perpetuate the cycle. Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, commanderjjones said: No lube, other than what was there from the factory. Yeah, I'm an AR rookie. So you think that was likely to be the problem? I'm gonna clean and lube it, then take it back to the range this weekend. That is a definite clue!! They don’t come lubed usually but may be packed in grease for long term storage. Clean that stuff off really well. Then with the lube of your choice, lube the bcg thoroughly, the buffer tube lightly, and lightly lube the inside of the receiver. Do NOT lube the chamber or the bolt face. Keep her wet during break in. That may be any where from 200-400 rds. After everything is worn in you can back it off a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanderjjones Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Thanks for the info'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 Larue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11C1P Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 I've been putting Hiperfire EDT triggers in all my builds now. I order from Joe Bob's & get the 5% discount (for all L.E., Military/vets & 1st responders) knocks the price down to $90 & you get free shipping with that. I'm especially partial to the Designated Marksman version. I usually add in one of their ambi safety selectors too. https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Aftermarket-AR-15-Triggers-s/132846.htm#/filter:manufacturer:Hiperfire/sort:ss_price:asc https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/JBO-AR-15-Ambidextrous-Safety-Selector-p/jb-ambi-safety.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach0415 Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Ok, after reading all this, I decided to go with the LaRue mbt 2s... now I'm trying to figure out what all the "2 stage" hype is... it says this thing is 2.5 then 2# for a total of 4.5#... honestly sitting here and I can not for the life if me tell the difference between it and my ALG ACT, thats had some rounds set off... they both have a light "creep", a wall, then bang... I'll be the first to admit I have never run a 2 stage in my life other than my muzzle loaders "set trigger, hair trigger" lol, but I was expecting something noticeablely different... Don't get me wrong, both are crisp and break clean with no travel once you hit "the wall"... But side by side other than the ACT being just a slight (very slight" bit heavier. I can not tell the difference, am I missing something here??? Edited December 15, 2021 by roach0415 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 13 hours ago, roach0415 said: they both have a light "creep", a wall, then bang... Your "creep" is the first stage, the "wall" is the beginning of the second stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 For the money the ACT is a nice trigger. If you want less movement go with a cassette type single stage. This is going in my 16" .308. Just my 2 mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotTheTshirt Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 I still vote PSA 3.5lb flat trigger. Like an on/off switch. Zero take up. Tiny reset. Debating rather I should replace my SSA-E on my AR-10 with the PSA. Every one of my other ARs have the PSA. They are that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 3 hours ago, GotTheTshirt said: PSA 3.5lb flat trigger You'll swap a SSA-E for this trigger? https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-custom-ar-3-5-lbs-match-grade-drop-in-trigger-flat-116055.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 4 hours ago, GotTheTshirt said: Debating rather I should replace my SSA-E on my AR-10 with the PSA. If you decide that, I'll buy that SSA-E from you. How many rounds you have under that trigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotTheTshirt Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 11:54 PM, 98Z5V said: If you decide that, I'll buy that SSA-E from you. How many rounds you have under that trigger? About 300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotTheTshirt Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 10:41 PM, jtallen83 said: You'll swap a SSA-E for this trigger? https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-custom-ar-3-5-lbs-match-grade-drop-in-trigger-flat-116055.html Yes, I have 3 of them already and absolutely love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 I honestly really love my cheap velocity drop in. No idea if they even make them anymore, but they were the ones making rebranded 3.5# drop ins for a bunch of different companies. Same family that makes timney. I had issues with it setting off milsurp 7.62 primers on some crusty old ammo I bought so it threw it in a 5.56 gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted October 8, 2022 Report Share Posted October 8, 2022 I'm a fan of SSA-E but I also now with my arthritis a cassette single stage works out better. Just my 2 mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 Love my Elfman and my SSa-e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotTheTshirt Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 Well, spent some time with Geissele about any options to increase the weight of the break. They stated that the SSA spring swap wouldn't make a noticeable change on break weight. So, a different trigger is on its way. I love the feel of the SSA-E, but the light break requires too much focus for me to control when sending a round takes place. Will test the SSA-E and the replacement to see which works best for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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