jtallen83 Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 One of the best scope evaluation series around, hours of reading if you study the whole thing <thumbsup> The only place I've ever seen a Sheperd scope is the pages of Shotgun News.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.308 Lover Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I used scopes for years, been around scopes for years - militarily. Never once did I see this brand of scope on any military rifle. Thus, the question. I've never not once seen one in military use. Anywhere. Now, is it that military members use this brand on their own rifles, outside of the military? Possibly. Wouldn't doubt it. However, there's no branch of the US military that uses these scopes, that I've ever seen. When I got my DPMS LR .308 in 2002, I tried to buy a Shepherd scope for it. Nobody had any, they all said they were going to the military. I think being bought by the soldier himself to use. Or by certain special forces types who can buy whatever they want. There is a film on the Shepherd Scope website. It shows soldiers firing weapons with Shepherd scopes on them. There are also pictures of military people with Shepherd scopes and training stories from the military about Shepherd scopes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Google counter sniper scopes. Another brand who spent a lot on marketing to make people think they were getting "military grade" equipment. This forum is the first time I've even heard of Shepherd scopes. Probably not the only one. 98 and stain have been there and done that. If these scopes were used with any regularity in official capacity, they would have seen it. Not saying they aren't good, or that they didn't have the potential to survive real conditions, or that one was never used. I'm just skeptical it happened enough to disrupt civilian sales Edited June 5, 2015 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Google counter sniper scopes. Another brand who spent a lot on marketing to make people think they were getting "military grade" equipment. This forum is the first time I've even heard of Shepherd scopes. Probably not the only one. 98 and stain have been there and done that. If these scopes were used with any regularity in official capacity, they would have seen it. Not saying they aren't good, or that they didn't have the potential to survive real conditions, or that one was never used. I'm just skeptical it happened enough to disrupt civilian sales I'd heard of Shepherd scopes and they have a good reputation, but being out of stock due to military sales sounds like a salesman's pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) but being out of stock due to military sales sounds like a salesman's pitch. Amen. Or by certain special forces types who can buy whatever they want. I don't think those units would purchase the Sheperd Scopes. Not so much from a quality standpoint (because I can't personally speak to that), but from a practical application one. From what I can tell from the website, none of Sheperd's offerings marry up with what has been taught for quite sometime...at least that I am aware of. Are you affiliated with Sheperd Scopes? Edited June 6, 2015 by StainTrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 When I got my DPMS LR .308 in 2002, I tried to buy a Shepherd scope for it. Nobody had any, they all said they were going to the military. I think being bought by the soldier himself to use. Or by certain special forces types who can buy whatever they want. There is a film on the Shepherd Scope website. It shows soldiers firing weapons with Shepherd scopes on them. There are also pictures of military people with Shepherd scopes and training stories from the military about Shepherd scopes. I was assigned to a Special Forces Group from 1995 through 2004. Nobody had a Shepherd scope on a work gun at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 When I got my DPMS LR .308 in 2002, I tried to buy a Shepherd scope for it. Also, DPMS didn't make a .308 AR in 2002. I'm calling bull$hit on you, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Also, DPMS didn't make a .308 AR in 2002. I'm calling bull$hit on you, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Bwahahahaaaa!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Typo maybe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) :threadjack: Not where I thought this thread was going from the title.. but..right here it is; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DPMS_Panther_Arms <munch> Edited June 7, 2015 by jtallen83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 BUSTED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Earliest reference of the "DPMS Panther .308" - what it was called when it was introduced - was from Jeff Quinn, Gunblast owner, in October 2003 - and he scooped everybody. http://www.gunblast.com/DPMS-308.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 You are very correct. I am an H59 convert myself. I have had my eye on this reticle type for some time,just haven't had the money for it yet.Soon though.More manufacturer's are incorporating this type in thier scopes.The warrenty from Horus itself is weak.Just my 2 mags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) I want one of those 10 rd waffle mags! Also..... Burn. Edited June 7, 2015 by blue109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 I have had my eye on this reticle type for some time,just haven't had the money for it yet.Soon though.More manufacturer's are incorporating this type in thier scopes.The warrenty from Horus itself is weak.Just my 2 mags. My H59 is stuffed in a Leupold Mark 6. I really like the Mark 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 My H59 is stuffed in a Leupold Mark 6. I really like the Mark 6. That was the one I was thinking about brother,outstanding setup you got there. <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 You want some pics, brother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Of you or the scope.... :eek: ..........Fuk yea send 'um both...... <laughs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 You want some pics, brother? No pants, needs to imagine his hugs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 For further information on Shepherd scopes and the military, look at the catalog on Shepherd's site. It loads slow, took about 15 or 20 seconds on my machine. That catalog explains a lot of things. I can't look at the catalog for you. I looked at the catalog. I also went through the testimonials. The only military reference I could find in the testimonials was from a MSG Mark Delmont, with a faceless picture of two people. One in a black shirt that has "5049th USAR Infantry School" on the back of it. For some reason, I can't find ANY reference to a 5049th US Army Reserve Infantry School anywhere. Nowhere. It's a unit that doesn't exist, and didn't exist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 For some reason, I can't find ANY reference to a 5049th US Army Reserve Infantry School anywhere. Nowhere. It's a unit that doesn't exist, and didn't exist.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 ^^^^ Where's the pics brother. <dontknow> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) I did find a Mark Delmont that's a Deputy Sheriff, on Linked. Wonder if it's the same guy?... https://www.linkedin.com/pub/mark-delmont/59/29a/b76 Then there's this guy on FB - gotta be the same guy. CCSO hat, and all. https://www.facebook.com/mark.delmont.1 Gotta be the guy that wrote that testimonial for them... Coincidences being what they are these days. Edited June 7, 2015 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) ^^^^ Where's the pics brother. <dontknow> Sent. Let me know if you have questions... Edited June 8, 2015 by StainTrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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