Arizona you awake down there SB1625

[Magwa]

now I know this probably will not make it far but you better watch these clowns and do not let them sneek something in while you are not looking....

 

[blue109]

We are a blue state now! Probably already agreed upon. Just waiting on the formalities.  

[edgecrusher]

Holy shit! If that passes I can cross Arizona right off my list. That’s fucking terrible

[Cunuckgaucho]

  FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION:

1.  "ASSAULT WEAPON":

(a)  MEANS A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS THE CAPACITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE.

 

So 

 

[DNP]

Wait until assault weapon means any instrument that could be used to assault or cause harm to another individual...where are we going to get rid of...everything in existence?

[392heminut]

Mike, did you notice that that video aired 10 months ago? I would guess that whatever was going to happen with that bill probably already happened.

[Magwa]

yes I did I just wanted to get people on their feet and doing the Boogie wondered when someone would catch that BUT if they can try it once and then vote blue on the election Just saying watch your topknot!

[DNP]

If they can say Biden won that state and not have an armed uprising, they can do anything they want. 

[dextron]

9 hours ago, DNP said:

If they can say Biden won that state and not have an armed uprising, they can do anything they want. 

in all honesty, the whole poop got boring day by day

[mrmackc]

On 12/6/2020 at 2:02 PM, Cunuckgaucho said:

  FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION:

1.  "ASSAULT WEAPON":

(a)  MEANS A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS THE CAPACITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE.

 

So 

 

A real A Salt Weapon, for what bugs you

 

[DNP]

I should get cracking on building 5.56 and 7.62 rimfire ammo and bolt kits. If states follow the “center fire rifle” language, I’ll be ready to take in the orders. 

[98Z5V]

That same group of Dems tries that shiit here every other year.  Honestly.  Every two years, they try to pull that exact same thing here. 

[Lane]

I want to believe this a standard political posturing in the AZ legislature. But it's not a grossly different architecture than Biden's published "gun safety" plan. Biden's plan even specifically mentions using executive orders. He plans to bypass congress on gun control issues?

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

I sure as hell don't know what NFA registration would do to the legality of keeping semi-automatic rifles in New York state.

[Magwa]

10 hours ago, 98Z5V said:

That same group of Dems tries that shiit here every other year.  Honestly.  Every two years, they try to pull that exact same thing here. 

then now is the time to gather the gun owners of AR. and vote these Mother Fukers out it is the only way you can keep what you got is find like minded folks and vote them in...

[Magwa]

9 hours ago, Lane said:

I want to believe this a standard political posturing in the AZ legislature. But it's not a grossly different architecture than Biden's published "gun safety" plan. Biden's plan even specifically mentions using executive orders. He plans to bypass congress on gun control issues?

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

I sure as hell don't know what NFA registration would do to the legality of keeping semi-automatic rifles in New York state.

He can not executive order the second amendment out of existence 

[jtallen83]

49 minutes ago, Magwa said:

He can not executive order the second amendment out of existence 

Are you sure about that? They were not supposed to infringe on it in the first place but here we are. 

[DNP]

I fuckin hope he tries. That’s a sure-fire way to get this into the Supreme Court. I just hope they don’t manage to pack it first. 

[Magwa]

2 hours ago, jtallen83 said:

Are you sure about that? They were not supposed to infringe on it in the first place but here we are. 

100% sure he can not change the constitution by executive order only congress can change or amend the constitution and that has to be by 3/4 majority this is the way i understand it ...

[392heminut]

5 hours ago, Magwa said:

100% sure he can not change the constitution by executive order only congress can change or amend the constitution and that has to be by 3/4 majority this is the way i understand it ...

@98Z5V seems to be the most knowledgeable about this stuff here on the forum, maybe he will chime in. For some reason I seem to think that a Constitutional Convention needs to be called to do anything with the Constitution.

[Lane]

5 hours ago, Magwa said:

7 hours ago, jtallen83 said:

Are you sure about that? They were not supposed to infringe on it in the first place but here we are. 

100% sure he can not change the constitution by executive order only congress can change or amend the constitution and that has to be by 3/4 majority this is the way i understand it ...

I'm of the same understanding, that the constitution can't be easily changed; but this is a nuanced approach.

The agenda is written; not to cancel the whole second amendment, but to encumber almost all semi-automatic rifles as NFA items. Much like the AZ plan; you could pay a tax/fee; register, and keep your stuff. Cheap .22lr plinkers would remain legal... And they will likely make that argument; "Look you can still go to Wal-Mart and buy a .22lr, or select shotgun models; 2A still exists.". The argument also is made in NY; that the second amendment doesn't apply to "assault weapons". Something Joe Biden and other Dems seem pretty convinced of as well.

That's certainly the loophole NY plays; that they are able to regulate some guns, or features that are deemed unnecessary, or more dangerous. Also requiring permitting (a may-issue registration) of handguns since the 1930s, which remains a pretty clear violation in itself. 

I certainly wonder how this plays out in the real world over the coming months...

[DNP]

Preaching to the choir...the second amendment applies to arms. Period. It was a fairly short sentence. I’m surprised so many people have trouble understanding the meaning of 27 words with a couple of commas mixed in and a period after it.  Those fancy colleges must not teach a whole lot. 

 

Arms: “Weapons and ammunition; armaments.”  
Infringed: “act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.”

 

crap...undermine and encroach are big words too. Maybe we should get these folks a dictionary. 
 

 

[Magwa]

20 minutes ago, DNP said:

Preaching to the choir...the second amendment applies to arms. Period. It was a fairly short sentence. I’m surprised so many people have trouble understanding the meaning of 27 words with a couple of commas mixed in and a period after it.  Those fancy colleges must not teach a whole lot. 

 

Arms: “Weapons and ammunition; armaments.”  
Infringed: “act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.”

 

crap...undermine and encroach are big words too. Maybe we should get these folks a dictionary. 
 

 

A+++++ This!

People need to QUIT using the term assault weapon!!!!!!!! each and every weapon ever invented from single shot smooth bore musket to M16 has or was a assault weapon at one time that includes bolt action rifles! and each and every weapon ever issued to the US troops has become a civilian gun of choice lever action ,single shot, bolt semi auto and that is where we are today take all the scary black stuff off and it is just another M1 Garand type weapon we are defeating ourselves educate people your senators congress men etc there is no such thing as a assault weapon!

[jtallen83]

@Magwa @LaneThey don't need to change a thing, just continue to ignore it as they have. If the NFA is not an infringement then what is? While we debate the constitution they continue their march to a one world government, a new world order.

     Our refusal to follow their unconstitutional edicts is the only way back to Liberty we have.

[Magwa]

2 hours ago, jtallen83 said:

@Magwa @LaneThey don't need to change a thing, just continue to ignore it as they have. If the NFA is not an infringement then what is? While we debate the constitution they continue their march to a one world government, a new world order.

     Our refusal to follow their unconstitutional edicts is the only way back to Liberty we have.

we are on the same page ......

[Lane]

Well stated.

Still doesn't make the discussion about watching these upcoming plays carefully null and void. NY passed the SAFE Act in the middle of the night; mid-January of 2013. I fully expect further attempts to infringe; in a similar timeframe. Not just in NY state, or AZ...