gsmopar Posted March 21, 2013 Report Posted March 21, 2013 Today was my 2nd outing with my LR .308. I started to experience ejection problems after the 1st couple rounds that steadily progressed into no ejection at all. When I got the rifle home I noticed some powder residue around the gas block. Upon inspection the gas block was loose and had moved forward druing the hand full of rounds I put through the gun this morning. I put everything back in place and tightened all bolts Hopefully it will perform better on my next outing. (see my previous posts for a history on this build) On a positive side, I was able to sight the rifle in at 100 yards. The final grouping was about 3 inches on 3-5 shots after I got everything adjusted. This is with an inexperienced shooter (me). Finally, I'm debating on recoil devices. I've done some research on Muzzle Breaks, hydraulic springs and buffers, and heavy buffer/spring combos. The rifle packs a punch, but I don't know if the draw backs of each device are worth the reduced recoil. The heavy buffer appears to be fairly heavy. The rifle already weighs 10lbs and I don't know if this is the route that I want to take. I researched several break/compensator devices, and I'm concerned with the increased noise for bystanders and/or blow back towards the shooter. I use the rifle for fun and might take it hunting at some point. Real world experiences appreciated. Thanks, Greg
Rsquared Posted March 21, 2013 Report Posted March 21, 2013 Well, I use the AAC Brakes on all of my 10's. No problem with blowback to the shooter. But damn! You don't wanna be sittin directly beside someone running one. Example. My son and I were blasting one morning. On the shooting bench next to us (where we had other rifles sitting), I had a typlical plastic water bottle about a 1/3 full. The bottle was approximately 5 feet away. The blast from the brake kept knocking the bottle over. Yet another reason why I try to take a bench as far away from anybody else that I can. Granted, this was from a 16" carbine. But it wasn't much different through the 20" SASS. The reduction in recoil though is highly noticable.
edgecrusher Posted March 22, 2013 Report Posted March 22, 2013 Muzzle breaks work well, but ^^^ is one side affect - side shock wave, the other is they tend to be a bit noisy. But I would still recommend one. The other thing would be a heavy buffer from Heavybuffers.com. While it seems like it would be a lot of felt weight, they really do reduce the felt affect of recoil, by a lot, and they balance out the heavy front end nicely in my opinion.
Rsquared Posted March 22, 2013 Report Posted March 22, 2013 Edge is right. I forgot to mention that I use the heavy buffers from Slash. Again...a noticeable difference.
Dane Armory Posted March 22, 2013 Report Posted March 22, 2013 Go to Sportsmans Warehouse an get a buttpad ! Instant fix. There are alot of good comps and brakes , do the research get one you like. If/when you need help get a hold of me we will thread the barrel , time the comp/brake and install it. Mike
Skiffjockey Posted March 22, 2013 Report Posted March 22, 2013 Do what I did, shoot 10 rds through a 300 win mag off the bench and then pick up your lr, it'll feel like a 22!
edgecrusher Posted March 22, 2013 Report Posted March 22, 2013 Do what I did, shoot 10 rds through a 300 win mag off the bench and then pick up your lr, it'll feel like a 22!
gsmopar Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Posted March 22, 2013 Do what I did, shoot 10 rds through a 300 win mag off the bench and then pick up your lr, it'll feel like a 22! That's funny! :D I ordered a Heavybuffer. Hoping to hit the range again next week.
shepp Posted March 22, 2013 Report Posted March 22, 2013 Do what I did, shoot 10 rds through a 300 win mag off the bench and then pick up your lr, it'll feel like a 22! TRUTH!
Magwa Posted March 22, 2013 Report Posted March 22, 2013 Mine is a tad over 8 lbs 16 inch barrel and to me it hardly kicks at all i shoot mainly 145 to 150 grain bullets but it still is a light kicker and I use a M4 stock I guess after shooting 7mmSTW with 83 grains of H1000 they all feel like 22's
BLKSHEEP Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 ^^^Agreed , I've been shooting 7mm mags & 45-70's for years so my 308 is a pleasure to shoot.
gsmopar Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 Great! So now I sound like a female cat that can't handle the kick of his gun and doesn't want to make it any louder... I'm going to attempt to redeem myself with a picture from one of my other hobbies:
BLKSHEEP Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 Didn't mean it like that bro! I've never fired a .223 but I would guess if that's what I was use to and moved up to a 308 it might feel harsh.....Bad ass car Give us some specs on that baby!!
Rsquared Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 That's a bad ass picture there my brother. Love that body-style.......and the smoke from the rear tires.
Magwa Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 Damn fine car........and I too did not mean you are less than manly, I just never though that the 308 in a AR platform was a hard kicker but i have owned some that are like a ruger #1 in 458 crap that thing hurt.... but i love that car....
planeflyer21 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 I have a buddy whose shoulder used to bug him a little bit occasionally. Until he got a Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70...then it bothered him all the time, until he had surgery. Jon
gsmopar Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 Thanks for the input on the gun and compliments on the old hot rod. I didn't take offense, just trying to be a little funny. :D You guys hit the nail on the head! I haven't fired many modern center fire rifles. All of my previous firearms are older family heirloom hunting rifles, shot guns, and hand guns. I always wanted an AR-type rifle, and got motivated with the recent political climate to build one.
edgecrusher Posted March 23, 2013 Report Posted March 23, 2013 You will be happy with what the heavier buffer does for you, hope you got the spring as well. Nice Charger…. 440 six pack? Hemi? I want details, I'm a whore this way..
gsmopar Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 You will be happy with what the heavier buffer does for you, hope you got the spring as well. Nice Charger…. 440 six pack? Hemi? I want details, I'm a whore this way.. Yes, I ordered the buffer and spring. The gun is all cleaned up and ready for next week! This is where I noticed the powder residue: I removed the hand guard and had to slide the gas block down about .25 inch an re-tighten the set screws: Ready for next week: The car is a 1969 Charger that I've had since 1990. It's been through a lot of different stages and currently runs mid 10's with a very old 440:
gsmopar Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Posted March 23, 2013 PS: Here is a pic of my last outing. I was shooting the gun "single shot" for most of these shots. I think that I can hold a nice tight pattern now that I have the gas block fixed and can stay focused:
seasprite Posted March 24, 2013 Report Posted March 24, 2013 Nice it looks like you had that guy beat on reaction time alone then smoked him even more with the horses
unforgiven Posted March 24, 2013 Report Posted March 24, 2013 68/69 Chargers R/Ts love um.There was Mr. Norm around Chi town area had some bad ass mopars right out the box. :D
98Z5V Posted March 24, 2013 Report Posted March 24, 2013 gs, good old FIrebird Raceway. Next time you're heading up there, let me know - I'd love to show up and watch you run that beast.
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