imschur Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 so about 2 years ago at the day job we partnered with a company to automate, track and barcode the material flows through our facility as well as in and out the door. The first phase went pretty well though I was pretty skeptical of the project over odd little details. Now since November the entire project has been falling apart. The software creator and business owner way over sold his ability to interface our existing system. We have been bleeeding money because we are paying for this guy to learn as he goes. At every turn there is a new road block and yet greater expense. The business owner and my boss seem committed to ride out this cluster fuk because of what we have already invested between time and money. It's insanity to put it mildly. Everyday Im greeted with an email for a new witch hunt all the while trying to hit a moving target. Insult to injury they need my help at ridiculous times like txting me at 3am. WTF are they vampires.I am now taking the position to fuel a fire to kill his project. Enough is enough. I dont get comp time, I dont get paid for after hours work like this.My friends we have hit ludicrous speed.Im done, I want my life back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Others most likely feel the same as you so a little push may be all that's required to send the whole debacle toppling. Edited February 18, 2014 by Microgunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Lol. My company is in a similar scenario. We are actually on our second complete tracking system, which is worse than the first miserable failure in many aspects. They just keep humping away at it though. Would have been better off just buying an established system like UPS uses instead of trying to build our own. At this point we all just laugh at the catastrophes, but we aren't getting 3am calls either. The guys in ties sitting at HQ who have no idea what we do day to day think it's a great idea as our stock prices continue to dive and branches get shut down. We have lost 2/3s of our employees in the last 2 years. Common sense says the cost saving cuts are on the wrong end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Text messages at 3 AM cost extra. Just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbasks Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Sounds like obamacare exchanges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Working at the university doing IT... you see this crap all the time, and add to that the political wars among different self-serving individuals that go on daily. Yes, that's where your tax dollars go. Edited February 18, 2014 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Pretty sad that today is the first time I logged in here in probably 2 weeks. I have been forced to follow along a little with RSS feeds...argghhhIm getting a tablet soon on the company nickel. That will help me get some comp time back even if it is in the mens room :) If it wasnt for instagram and snapchat I would have no social life :)BTW things are getting ugly here in CT.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 The couple that owns AKT (is that the umbrella corp over Uncle Mike's et al?) has a similar horror story about when they were switching their entire holding's inventory management over to RFID. The whole thing glitched after ditching the old system, then fell apart from there. Has anyone mentioned it's in the 80s here today? As Klaus says "We have the answer!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 My wife had a career designing those types of systems for the medical industry. She was on the national committee that originally standardized barcodes. She has tons of horror stories of companies who got in over their heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I say stand tall WITH the system and give it all you can. If you set out to work against it and start running your own show (so to speak) upper management will see this and although they MAY empathize, since they are committed to making the inadequate system work, they will begin to see people who's hearts aren't in it and have more people to blame for THEIR failures. New inventory management systems aren't always a failure because of an inadequate system itself but many times due to people wanting to do things "the way they always have". Material movements and processes sometimes also need to change to make the system AND the materials more in-sync and it's the people resisting that makes things tough. I'm not saying the system is good at all either, it may stink like ass all day but many times with a little out of the box thinking, there may be ways of making everything fall more "in tune" with it's inadequacies and still be able to work. I'm just a big dumb guy but I was with APC for 10 years, 5 countries and 9 facilities and then worked with a number of smaller companies who were having issues and I was fortunate enough to be able to help with the right people in place. I know how frustrating it can be but if you aren't one of the decision makers in the big chairs, don't get caught being the guy that saying "it's never gonna work". Management types, even though things are not going the way they intended, will tend to see you as one of the causes of the failures rather than someone who stood by them when things were sucking big wind. Again, I'm not some kinda "know-it-all" or even any kind of system or IT guy. I was just a guy from the floor who found a way to make things work BETTER by using some good ol yankee ingenuity and stick-to-it-ive-ness when things were going tough. It paid big when changes were made and they needed someone they could count on when setting up new facilities around the world. Problems between systems and materials ended up becoming "my kinda thing" eventually. Although, what the heck do I know, I'm happy to afford bullets lately..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 The biggest obstacle currently is the developer is holding project elements hostage for money against future elements and phases. He is balking at his own emails,project layout and time table.BTW this is not even a custom product. The only thing custom was supposed to be an interface to an odbc driver and their software. "no problem we do it all the time"I knew we were in trouble Sept 2012 when they were on site and had never seen server 2008r2 or Win7.Turns out while i was out yesterday some emails were passed around from all parties involved. My boss said enough is enough. We will pay about $4000 additional to free up the items they are holding hostage. We are out an additional $10-15 that was used up to find they could not create the interface without spending another $12kIn some ways my boss is getting what he deserved. I wanted to go with a company that is a partner to the company that provides our current software. Scanco and Scanforce are ready to interface out of the gate.I honestly wouldnt mind the BS if I was getting compensated for it.Ive done many big projects and they all have their things that kill you. This is the first time it's been a human directly causing the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I was right, I don't know crap about what you are saying..lol I've dealt with Man-man, Entree's (mom and pop shop stuff), Oracle 10.7 and 11i, UPS Roadnet (or something like that), Omega Cube and a half dozen other types of systems but was never ONCE involved with the software side. Always the guy on the ground finding a way to make the nightmares work. I'd be sitting in meeting with Master's degrees and when they'd look at me for answers, I'd laugh and say "what are you guys looking at ME for? You're the damn scientists!!! I'm just the crash dummy..."lol What you're talking about is a bit beyond my level of expertise so um, well, er, Best of luck with your next project !!! :)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 After reading all this I am reminded of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Thats one to hang in the cubicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 That's one to hang 15'x15' from the rafters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I have seen waaayyy to many of that type on the job site.Can't wait to get the fuk out.....Fuk up move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I have seen waaayyy to many of that type on the job site.Can't wait to get the fuk out.....Fuk up move up. You work for the government to? <lmao> ...well maybe it isn't really that funny....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Building trades...Sheetmetal Worker out of Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I have seen waaayyy to many of that type on the job site.Can't wait to get the fuk out.....Fuk up move up. I was waiting for your reply Rene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I know you seen them brother Neal,project managers that couldn't build a dog house.Crazy time frames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmist Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Sucks: Corp. can write everything off as "expense" while the soldiers try to figure out who's in charge of which damage control. Try to step out of that vortex of B.S. and drama, personalities, etc.. It'll burn you out and further degrade your judgement skills. Hang in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAAWrenchBender Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 "the website,......is going to run like a champ" I feel your pain.........at some point you need to talk with the Boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Salesman does it again "sure I can make a pig fly,done it plenty of times" just sign here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I know you seen them brother Neal,project managers that couldn't build a dog house.Crazy time frames. Or architects "if I can drawn it you can build it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I know you seen them brother Neal,project managers that couldn't build a dog house.Crazy time frames. Majority of the IT project managers I work with are ill qualified and a waste of company resources. It's pretty much expected. *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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